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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2013, 12:35:06 PM »

I work with Men.  Wink

even better... work around children. i walk into a classroom with helmet in hand, im a superhero.
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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2013, 02:54:02 PM »

True. Kids get it. They wave to you from cars and the sidewalk, so I always wave back.
They remember that stuff and it may  lead them to ride one day. A ride on the back of a Z900 changed my life.
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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2013, 03:16:43 PM »

Reminds me of a dog in the back of an SUV I saw while riding.

The dog was so stoked "HEY LOOK THERE'S A GUY RIDING A MOTORCYCLE!!!!!!"  laughingdp

A ride on the back of a CB350 did it for me, I was maybe 8 or 9.  Dolph
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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2013, 03:18:27 PM »

True. Kids get it. They wave to you from cars and the sidewalk, so I always wave back.

+1, wish they could see the smile under my visor =).
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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2013, 03:48:59 PM »

I was leaving work for two track days at NJMP.  One of the girls in the office said I should stop at Six Flags on the way by and do something exciting.  I'm pretty sure she doesn't get it   Grin
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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2013, 04:26:32 PM »

Reminds me of a dog in the back of an SUV I saw while riding.

The dog was so stoked "HEY LOOK THERE'S A GUY RIDING A MOTORCYCLE!!!!!!"  laughingdp

A ride on the back of a CB350 did it for me, I was maybe 8 or 9.  Dolph
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« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2013, 06:43:04 PM »

I've only had one person say something negative.  something like "it's so dangerous, aren't you afraid?"  My reply was "I'm more afraid of dying without living."



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« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2013, 07:02:26 PM »

even better... work around children. i walk into a classroom with helmet in hand, im a superhero.

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« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2013, 03:22:04 AM »

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Dogs get it. They look so happy at speed!

Saw a Guy get off a Harley one day with the the slogan on his T-shirt " Only a motorcyclist understands why a dog sticks its head out the window of your car."

So true.
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« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2013, 04:20:07 AM »

let me play the devils advocate for a moment...you don't give a rats ass about what your co-workers or bosses say about them seeing you ride the way that you did ( which to them seemed aggressive-regardless of how it was in reality)...these are people to whom you are forced to have a report with and communicate with....your willingness to dismiss arrogantly ( which is how I read the origional post) does close certain doors for you.

1) if they are/were looking for a long  term employee to invest in and promote, are they going to look at the team player who is safe and productive and predictable that they can count on for being there? of course they are, because risk assesment is an integral part of people when they look at you as an employee.

2) whether they can understand it or not, but did you make an attempt to explain the dynamics of perhaps why you might have been doing what you were at that moment so as to possibly lessen the impression of aggression? that could be one of the moments where perhaps you open a door of complexity that might not have been opened, regardless of how likely it really might or might not have been. use the idea of physics and dynamics as a way to bridge that gap.

just some food for though when you have an "in your face-I don't care" flagrant attitude...
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« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2013, 05:25:20 AM »

I am in I.T and surrounded by managers that are into golf. 

Unlucky you - I'm in IT too and the front end dev who sits next to me rides (talked him into his first track day) and my boss Autocrosses a tweaked MR2
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« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2013, 05:42:32 AM »

let me play the devils advocate for a moment...you don't give a rats ass about what your co-workers or bosses say about them seeing you ride the way that you did ( which to them seemed aggressive-regardless of how it was in reality)...these are people to whom you are forced to have a report with and communicate with....your willingness to dismiss arrogantly ( which is how I read the origional post) does close certain doors for you.

1) if they are/were looking for a long  term employee to invest in and promote, are they going to look at the team player who is safe and productive and predictable that they can count on for being there? of course they are, because risk assesment is an integral part of people when they look at you as an employee.

2) whether they can understand it or not, but did you make an attempt to explain the dynamics of perhaps why you might have been doing what you were at that moment so as to possibly lessen the impression of aggression? that could be one of the moments where perhaps you open a door of complexity that might not have been opened, regardless of how likely it really might or might not have been. use the idea of physics and dynamics as a way to bridge that gap.

just some food for though when you have an "in your face-I don't care" flagrant attitude...


^Reason #347 why Bruce Springsteen is the only boss I listen to.  laughingdp
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« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2013, 06:00:37 AM »

Mostly positive conversations since there are enough people around that ride that it is an accepted norm though there have been some accidents with riding co-workers that reinforces the riding is dangerous viewpoint with the non-riding along the way.

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« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2013, 08:51:52 AM »

let me play the devils advocate for a moment...you don't give a rats ass about what your co-workers or bosses say about them seeing you ride the way that you did ( which to them seemed aggressive-regardless of how it was in reality)...these are people to whom you are forced to have a report with and communicate with....your willingness to dismiss arrogantly ( which is how I read the origional post) does close certain doors for you.

1) if they are/were looking for a long  term employee to invest in and promote, are they going to look at the team player who is safe and productive and predictable that they can count on for being there? of course they are, because risk assesment is an integral part of people when they look at you as an employee.

2) whether they can understand it or not, but did you make an attempt to explain the dynamics of perhaps why you might have been doing what you were at that moment so as to possibly lessen the impression of aggression? that could be one of the moments where perhaps you open a door of complexity that might not have been opened, regardless of how likely it really might or might not have been. use the idea of physics and dynamics as a way to bridge that gap.

just some food for though when you have an "in your face-I don't care" flagrant attitude...

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 It is what it is and I don't give a rat's ass about what anyone else thinks so gave up a long time ago trying to be a good ambassador to the sport and just try to treat others as I hope to be treated.
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« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2013, 09:01:13 AM »

I used to get a hard time from my uncle who would call bikes "donorcycles."  He's an incredibly nice person, but a bit hard headed.

Finally, I pointed out to him that the rate of crashes in small planes (like his) is fairly high for his age group and instead of being "donors" the pilots are picked up with a sponge.

Nothing else since...
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