Any Better Tire for Log distance + Twisties than PP 2CT?

[Kabulpostie]

Hey DMFrs
Been reading about tires a bit but can't seem to find the answers I need. I am curresntly running PP 2CTs and love them, feel perfectly stable in corners and seem to have lots of grip. I have almost 6k miles on them and it looks like I am going to have to replace the rear soon (Getting close to the wear bars in the center). I am in Yuma, AZ and have to ride 100+ miles to get into any corners. Anyone know of another dual compound tire that might give more longevity in the center portion without sacrificing grip?
Thanks for any advice.

KP

[Speeddog]

I've gotten ~12k miles out of each of 2 Pirelli Angel ST rears, one on an S4 and one on an M750.

They work fine for me in the twisty stuff as well.

They have been superseded by the Angel GT, AFAIK pretty much the same tire but dual compound.

[Heath]

I would say the Pilot Road 2 or Pilot Road 3 would be a good choice.

There is a big tire thread here.
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=2444.0

The most helpful though I find is the Michelin comparison charts.
http://199.73.57.203/dealer/charts.cfm

[Kabulpostie]

Thanks for the links, very useful..I am a little confused though. Looking at the Pilot Road 3s. Anyone know if they grip as well as the 2cts? Once I get done with the 100+ miles of slab I end up at palomar mt or twisties going up 79. So things  get pretty spirited, I'm not fast, but we do get enough lean that I  have run the rear all the way to the edge. Little worried that if I go with the roads I might find myseld doing some pavement surfing.

[SpikeC]

 How about the PP3?

[red baron]

I'm on my second set of PP3's. First set gave me nearly 6k.

I'm running a bit more pressure in this set and they're doing even better.

[Bonster]

Most modern tires are better than most modern riders.  The Holy Grail of longevity plus stick is already here.  Any sport touring tire by any manufacturer will give you in excess of 10,000 miles on the rear and stick better than most of us can push them.  All that said, can't bring myself to do it.  I'm running Pirelli Diablo Corsa Rossos and they'll probably be binned at 5.000 miles.  Before that Pilot Power Race.  Before that Pilot Pures.  Before that Pilot Power 2CT, before that Pirelli Diablos, before that Bridgestone BT014, before that Pilot Powers.  Not because I'm better than sport touring tires, but because confident riding is all between your ears.

[ab]

Running with pilot 3 now on my triumph and got no complaints.  We ride lots of twisty roads in  south east OH and I have no issue so far.  Soft tyre are just too expensive to replace frequently for me.

[DanTheMan]

Ive been running Pilot Rear3 on the rear and PilotPower on the front with good success. get about 10k from the rears PR3's. But now ive gone back to more sport riding (previous riding, touring and commuting) and i don't like the profile of the PR3. too flat, the PP and 2Ct's feel better in the corners and turn easier. Grip level is good for street riding, get some slides when hard on the gas with some lean angle, but i think its more of a profile issue. these are on my ktm supermoto.

[scooterd145]

My favorite combo is the PP 2ct front and PR2 rear. the PR2 gives really good grip (for a compromise) and lasts as long as the PP 2CT on the front. With PP's front and rear on mine I go through 2rears to one front.

Just for reference I ride about 10 - 12K miles per year and work from home so those are all fun miles. I go on long trips (2K  miles and up) as well as ride with a club weekly for spirited dinner rides. I ride her pretty hard with no "chicken strips" showing. I can definitely feel a difference with the PR2 on the rear but in my opinion it is worth the difference in exchange for the added miles.

I personally have not tried the PP3 as yet, but my buddy rides a MTS 1200 and REALLY likes them. This is his first set of these so dont know about mileage performance.

Scott

[oldndumb]

I put a set of Angel GTs on about 100 miles ago. Initial impression has been that they are not noticeable, and that is a good thing. 

Have a twisty ride coming up this week end, so I might have an update.

[ducej]

6000 k (kilometers that is) on Pirelli Angel ST, bit over halfway the thread. Close to speeddog`s experience. Happy with this setup, don`t know  by experience the new Angels.

[DavieDarkoR1]

I can vounce for the Pirelli Angel ST as well but on my 749. Ive had them for well over 7000 miles and still having good feed back at knee dragging angles. Id say theres still another 1500 miles on them.

[Kabulpostie]

Nice discussion and information all. Lot's to think about. I'm thinking about trying the Pirelli's since I've always had Dunlops or Michelin's..might as well try something else.

[Speeddog]

One thing to consider, depending on your preference.

The Pirelli fronts are a very round profile, and the Michelins more pointy profile.

So the Pirellis 'turn in' is very linear, while the Michelins fall in a bit.

I prefer the linear feel.
Some folks like a quick 'turn in'.