New Monster 1198

Started by ChrisK, November 04, 2013, 06:27:09 AM

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Moronic

Wheelbase - just checked: 1511 mm for the Monster 1200; 1530 for the Multi 1200. About 3/4 inch between them.

The S4Rs is down at 1440mm. That 71mm difference is nearly 3 inches which is a lot.

Starting to sound like a whole different kind of bike. More in the Diavel mould. Big fat cruiser that corners okay.

But who knows, Ducati has probably done something special with it that makes it work. Hope so. 8)


Skybarney

I am certain that someone will make rearsets.  Looks like an easy mod.  Damn I hate the left side of that bike.....
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Randy@StradaFab

  Way to "busy" for me. Gonna miss the 2V engine. Who knows, the air cooled bikes may be in high demand someday. Have you priced an air cooled Porsche lately?!

Skybarney

Quote from: Moronic on November 06, 2013, 07:46:36 AM
Wheelbase - just checked: 1511 mm for the Monster 1200; 1530 for the Multi 1200. About 3/4 inch between them.

The S4Rs is down at 1440mm. That 71mm difference is nearly 3 inches which is a lot.

Starting to sound like a whole different kind of bike. More in the Diavel mould. Big fat cruiser that corners okay.

But who knows, Ducati has probably done something special with it that makes it work. Hope so. 8)



Don't forget the extra 28lbs.  Longer and heavier is IMO not the right direction for a Monster.  I can't wait to weigh my EVO as the box of stock parts I removed has a fair bit of heft.....
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pesto

Looks HR Giger inspired. I assume this is the concept art they were working off of  ;D

2013 White M696

Skybarney

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twolanefun

#96
Quote from: Skybarney on November 06, 2013, 08:02:02 AM
Don't forget the extra 28lbs.  Longer and heavier is IMO not the right direction for a Monster.  I can't wait to weigh my EVO as the box of stock parts I removed has a fair bit of heft.....
Actually none of the weight or wheelbase numbers bother me, on paper you would have a very wrong impression of the Diavel. I've ridden the Diavel, 530 miles in fact, and while I admit it is not at all like my M900, the weight and length did not affect how effective that bike is on all sorts of roads, it is a very competent motorcycle and includes the smile factor for me, something the MTS does not do. - Gene
"I know a few roads"
92' PASO 907ie
02' M900 54K+ Miles
04' ST3 58k+miles - Sold
01' Victory Sportcruiser 30K miles, 04' Victory Kingpin - 111K+ miles
09' XR1200 - 15K+ miles
13' Diavel - 13K+ Miles Pay attention and things will be okay
EX-MSF Instructor, EX-President MAD
AMA Charter Life Member, Patriot Guard Rider
Victory Motorcycle Club, Charter Member
Patriot Guard Rider

muskrat

Quote from: twolanefun on November 06, 2013, 07:16:05 AM
The seat height is a limiting factor on the Multi(and the Hyperstrada for that matter). I think the price is about right for what you are buying and significantly cheaper than the MTS 1200 or the Diavel. - Gene
it's either a grand above the base multi or 3 grand above for the touring.  You can find a good used one for 13 and up
Can we thin the gene pool? 

2015 MTS 1200
09 Electra Glide

Skybarney

#98
Put a little back rest and some saddlebags on the 2014 Monster and Voila!  The Monstrada!  

Why bother buying a Diavel or a Multi......  Same motor, longer wheelbase and more weight.
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twolanefun

Quote from: muskrat on November 06, 2013, 08:41:00 AM
it's either a grand above the base multi or 3 grand above for the touring.  You can find a good used one for 13 and up

Not exactly sure what you are saying, the Monster 1200 is $14K, the 1200S is $16K. The MTS 1200 base is $17K and the Tour model is $20K. The Diavel base is $19K, $19.5K for Strada version. The best deal going is probably the Hyperstrada at $14K but the bags suck, it is the same height as the MTS, and the motor is that 821. - Gene
"I know a few roads"
92' PASO 907ie
02' M900 54K+ Miles
04' ST3 58k+miles - Sold
01' Victory Sportcruiser 30K miles, 04' Victory Kingpin - 111K+ miles
09' XR1200 - 15K+ miles
13' Diavel - 13K+ Miles Pay attention and things will be okay
EX-MSF Instructor, EX-President MAD
AMA Charter Life Member, Patriot Guard Rider
Victory Motorcycle Club, Charter Member
Patriot Guard Rider

muskrat

Quote from: twolanefun on November 06, 2013, 09:06:26 AM
Not exactly sure what you are saying, the Monster 1200 is $14K, the 1200S is $16K. The MTS 1200 base is $17K and the Tour model is $20K. The Diavel base is $19K, $19.5K for Strada version. The best deal going is probably the Hyperstrada at $14K but the bags suck, it is the same height as the MTS, and the motor is that 821. - Gene
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/2013/ducati/multistrada/1200/prices/129111/05/
Pricing for the Monster in the American market will be $15,995, available in March 2014.

a grand difference
Can we thin the gene pool? 

2015 MTS 1200
09 Electra Glide

Massinova

I like the looks and appreciate Ducati's choice to go back to a metal tank.

I'm curious if the U.S. version will be plagued with stalls and stutters because of the emission requirements.   ...or if a "performance" solution will be made available?


HotIce

Quote from: muskrat on November 06, 2013, 04:22:32 PM
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/2013/ducati/multistrada/1200/prices/129111/05/
Pricing for the Monster in the American market will be $15,995, available in March 2014.

a grand difference
In Italy is even worse. Same number, but in Euro  :-X

ungeheuer

Quote from: Pedro-bot on November 06, 2013, 06:39:37 AM

To my eye.... all that plumbing shit would look great..

...behind a fairing.

If you're gonna be naked, be beautiful.  This one needs some clothing IMO.
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Skybarney

^^^^ Been saying that since I first saw it.  There is a reason 95% of the pictures you will see online or on the Ducati site show just the right side......
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