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Travman
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November 04, 2013, 09:19:03 AM »
Who invited Mr. Burns to the party.
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Triple J
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November 04, 2013, 09:19:13 AM »
That side view looks pretty good. Hopefully someone comes out with a set of low mount pipes...short cans with one on each side. I think that would look good. That and some bar end mirrors and it would be a pretty good looking bike.
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duccarlos
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November 04, 2013, 09:21:46 AM »
I see they did not find a solution for the same issue that plagues all water cooled Monsters, the huge radiator.
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Quote from: oldndumb on November 04, 2013, 09:11:33 AM
I love it!! Outfreakingstanding. I want one.
Change the exhaust, add a few farkles and it will satisfy my inner bling. I've enjoyed my 2012, but I believe it pales in comparison. I'm afraid the 1100 EVOs were just a stop gap and will end up with mediocre resale value.
You're 1100 Evo should be fine. Of course it will decline in value, but it will hold steady at a certain point. I doubt there will be any massive sell off of 1100 Evo's. Not everybody will want the increased weight and power of the water-cooled model. Your bike was listed as having a 169 kg dry weight and this new version has a 182 kg dry weight. That is about a 28lbs difference. Also, your bike has a simplicity to the look that is not possible to replicate with a water-cooled engine. The 1100 Evo will probably continue to be sold as a model. In the past, the air-cooled Monsters continued to be sell even when the S4-S4R were added to the lineup.
Quote from: duccarlos on November 04, 2013, 09:13:55 AM
is that a metal tank?
Nothing is said about it being a metal tank, so I'm pretty sure it is a set of plastic covers over an internal plastic tank just like the current Monsters.
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duccarlos
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November 04, 2013, 09:40:24 AM »
If you look at this picture:
It doesn't seem to have the panels. Unless they made it even harder to gain access to the plastic internal tank, then you're looking at the actual tank. And if that is the case, we know that EU is moving towards ethanol. I would not put it past them to move back to a metal tank as the StreetTriple did.
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Quote from: polivo on November 16, 2011, 12:18:55 PM
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duccarlos
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Shouldn't this be moved to its own thread?
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Quote from: duccarlos on November 04, 2013, 09:41:43 AM
Shouldn't this be moved to its own thread?
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Quote from: duccarlos on November 04, 2013, 09:40:24 AM
If you look at this picture:
It doesn't seem to have the panels. Unless they made it even harder to gain access to the plastic internal tank, then you're looking at the actual tank. And if that is the case, we know that EU is moving towards ethanol. I would not put it past them to move back to a metal tank as the StreetTriple did.
You know, you might be right. It doesn't look the same. I just assumed that they would have bragged about the new metal tank. However, they may not want to mention a new metal tank because that might be a public announcement that previous plastic tanks suck.
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TitanMonsterS4R
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Yup, it's supposed to sound like that....
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November 04, 2013, 10:37:24 AM »
+1 on fuel capacity 4.6 gallons.
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Re: New Monster 1198
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November 04, 2013, 10:38:07 AM »
I see a 696, 796, 1200 and 1200s
1100 is DROPPED
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November 04, 2013, 10:42:56 AM »
Interestings facts about the throttle...
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The RbW system uses three different mappings to regulate power delivery:
135hp with a sports-type delivery
135hp with a progressive delivery suitable for touring
100hp with a progressive delivery for city use
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Re: New Monster 1198
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November 04, 2013, 11:02:32 AM »
From the Ducati website:
Sculptured fuel tank
The Monster's 17.5 L - 4.6 gallon (US) fuel tank represents an integral part of the bike's overall styling.
The distinctive fuel tank in pure "Monster-style" helps create the unmistakable "powerful Monster silhouette", while its
metal
construction and well-sculpted knee panels add a solid feel to the Monster.
I think I like it.
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TitanMonsterS4R
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Yup, it's supposed to sound like that....
Re: New Monster 1198
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November 04, 2013, 11:09:58 AM »
Like that the tank is metal....Don't like the price tage:
Monster 1200 - $13, 495
Monster 1200 S - $15,995
I dont get that. Morethan the 2012 Streetfigter ($13,300) and in the same ballpark as the Evo @ $14K.
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November 04, 2013, 11:29:23 AM »
bike looks freaking amazing -- naysayers sound like party poopers. it's a metal tank again (a la panigale), finally! this is what the evolution of Galluzzi's monster should have been. the tail comes tidy already, the diavel-inspired (sc project, anyone?) license-plate bracket is on the money.
and the engine is un-make the beast with two backsing-real. i just got a new multistrada with the same engine, the new spark plug makes all the difference, and if you're already doing efi you might as well do licquid-cooled. those who are purists have a plethora of classics to choose from.
if i bought one, which i probably won't because i love the original best, i would probably only make one change: the frame and wheels should be gold like Senna's.
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November 04, 2013, 11:29:34 AM »
The side shot really shows how closely the lines of the tank/seat/tail follow those of the classic monster
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