New Monster 1198

[thought]

It's not bad but I like my SF a lot better... more distinctive.  That being said, I've never really liked any of the new ducs (cept the 1199) in pictures till I've seen them in person.  They just tend to look better then.

The other thing I still think the SF has over the monsters is that it's really a barely diluted sbk for the street.  This the M1200 will probably loads more useable on a daily basis but there's something to be said about having a more raw beastly bike.

[SpikeC]

 I'm seeing it as a little tiny bike with a huge monstrous motor. I could overlook the 4 valve maintenance issues for this, although I could do without the nanny software.

[DRKWNG]

DP isn't commenting on the criticism of Ducati's design choices, but rather the specific adjective used. There are plenty of more appropriate ones.

Doesn't matter.  Still looks like it's been punched in the face.

[LA]

Maybe I'll get one more Ducati before I croak. How much does it weigh?

[Skybarney]

While the right side of the bike is workable with a shorter pipe and some CF.  The left side of the bike clearly shows why fairings are not a bad thing.  It is just so damn cluttered looking.  I wish I could talk myself into an upgrade but I can't, it is left side fugly and I see no way to fix that.

[SpikeC]

 Stay on the right side?

[Spidey]

I'd ride it, but I don't want to make the beast with two backs it. 

RIP big cc, air-cooled monsters.   

[Privateer]

I like it.

they had me at metal tank.  it was the one thing making me look elsewhere for my next bike.

[HotIce]

I like it!
Big plus, metal tank, and the 129 screws to remove current tank in my EVO.
Headers out, access to belts looks better WRT the EVO (which has frame right in front).
Then there is the fact that doubles the cams and valve, but now I am looking at the plusses only 
Headlight looks same as EVO to me. Tail is better in the 1198.
Need more space in my garage 

[Lucumon]

I like the plate placement and the already done tail chop... will this be more or less reliable than the air cooled version?

Further... why do you think the 1100 evo was on the market for such a short period of time?

[SDRider]

I like the plate placement and the already done tail chop... will this be more or less reliable than the air cooled version?

Further... why do you think the 1100 evo was on the market for such a short period of time?

Development?  The 1100 EVO was just an evolutional development of the previous bike.  Money was already being spent on the Multistrada and various other bikes (Diavel) so they probably didn't have the funds or manpower to devote to all those projects at the same time.

Just a thought.

[BlackdogGS]

I love it.  Someone was asking about the weight.  I think its 28 pounds heavier than the 1100.  I think the first maintenance is at 17,000 miles.  I can't remember where I read this though.

The only thing I would do is new CF under tail exhaust, touring seat and maybe relocate the plate to under the tail. That's all.

Crap, I just spent hundreds on getting my 1100S the way I like it. 

Look for my 2010 1100S in the classifieds sometime soon! I really need 135 HP.

[pesto]

	Monster 1200 S	Monster 1100 Evo	SF 848	Diavel
Dry Weight (lbs)	401	373	373	463
Power (hp)	145	100	132	162

Note: 1100 evo specs taken 2nd hand since they were yanked from ducati's site...can't even get there via google cache anymore o.O.

[Betty]

Note: 1100 evo specs taken 2nd hand since they were yanked from ducati's site...can't even get there via google cache anymore o.O.

They have a model archive on the website. It lists the 2013 evo as 373lbs and then goes on to say ABS wet weight is 414lbs.

[pesto]

They have a model archive on the website. It lists the 2013 evo as 373lbs and then goes on to say ABS wet weight is 414lbs.

Thanks! Fixed.