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« Reply #105 on: November 06, 2013, 05:36:27 PM »

I think if i upgrade power wise, i will go SF...
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« Reply #106 on: November 06, 2013, 06:24:50 PM »

If you're gonna be naked, be beautiful.  This one needs some clothing IMO.

Well there goes my social life. Well said, though.
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« Reply #107 on: November 06, 2013, 07:01:20 PM »

Put a little back rest and some saddlebags on the 2014 Monster and Voila!  The Monstrada!  

Why bother buying a Diavel or a Multi......  Same motor, longer wheelbase and more weight.

Starting to think they have aimed it at a slightly more mature crowd. Here's Ducati's blurb on the size from the "tailored ergonomics" part of their website:

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The new Monster 1200 range features a totally redefined size, and ergonomics designed to offer "one-bike-in-the-garage" versatility.

The new Monster size ensures ample accomodations even for a rider 185 cm tall and a passenger 175 cm tall, also allowing baggage to be loaded without compromises.

The seat position is very comfortable, allowing long distance riding if desired; the riding position is upright thanks to a high handlebar fixed close to the rider; and a passenger seat with easily removed cover, low passenger footpegs, and integrated passenger handles welcome anyone the rider wishes to bring along.


And then this from the "Monster design" section:

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The rear view of the bike has been designed keeping in mind the possibility to easily fix dedicated side panniers, so that the mounting system is perfectly integrated with the bike's style when panniers are removed.

So there you go: built for two, and some sort of saddlebags on the DP accessory list.

Not quite where the Monster has been, but not a bad way to go for many possible buyers, I'm guessing.

Yes I know the originals used to have bags available.

The extra size helps explain the weight. There is also stuff like the bigger fork tubes - Ohlins 48mm like on the big Multi, rather than the S4Rs 43s.
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« Reply #108 on: November 06, 2013, 07:59:14 PM »

That's interesting, the 185/175 pretty much describes me and my GF.

And it's a bit cramped for us on a Gen 2 or 3 Monster.
Not any chance I'm going to buy an M1200, so all a bit moot....
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« Reply #109 on: November 06, 2013, 08:25:00 PM »

So is this Generation 4? Aka, does the ST framed M900 / M1000 from '02-04ish count as a separate generation ?

I agree, it's busy but prob looks a lot better in person, like the S4s.  Hope it sells well w many iterations. How about a smaller one..821.
It sounds like Ducati may be moving away from entry level bikes.
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« Reply #110 on: November 06, 2013, 10:36:36 PM »

Am i missing something here, or does the monster 1200 not have a gear indicator??

I couldn't find any info that the monster has one, neither on any of the photos of the dash.
That's pretty ridiculous considering it has the same dash as the panigale.

Anybody got any infos or pics to prove me wrong??
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« Reply #111 on: November 07, 2013, 02:04:41 AM »

Am i missing something here, or does the monster 1200 not have a gear indicator??

I couldn't find any info that the monster has one, neither on any of the photos of the dash.
That's pretty ridiculous considering it has the same dash as the panigale.

Anybody got any infos or pics to prove me wrong??
What?  Not even a Hello first?

Gear indicator?  See there is a reason we need a NOGAS thread  laughingdp
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« Reply #112 on: November 07, 2013, 03:29:01 AM »

Boom tubes would great on this puppy Smiley
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« Reply #113 on: November 07, 2013, 03:35:08 AM »

sorry, meant to say 'would look great'
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« Reply #114 on: November 07, 2013, 06:32:49 AM »

I think if i upgrade power wise, i will go SF...
IMO that will be faded out, with the coming on Liquid Monster.
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« Reply #115 on: November 07, 2013, 07:05:59 AM »

I'm of the mind that a Monster should only be air cooled. This is why I liked the idea of the SF. It was purposely designed to have a water cooled engine. When looking at the sales numbers, you might say that it was a failure, but if you take the S4* sales independent to the rest of the Monster line, you'll probably see similar numbers. I for one prefer having the 2 separate, but keeping with the cost cutting trend, you see why Ducati decided to merge the 2 segments back into 1 bike. It is still better looking than the "new" Monster, even if it falls far short of the "original".
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« Reply #116 on: November 07, 2013, 10:47:28 AM »

Yeah, the left side is a little busy....but damn.  Shocked

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« Reply #117 on: November 08, 2013, 05:43:46 PM »

I've been wanting to upgrade from my 2010 696.  I love the bike, but I would like a little more power.  I've been eyeing the Diavel for a while, but if they make a black version of this 1200, I may be sticking to the Monster family when it comes time to upgrade.  I think it looks great.  I prefer having the dual exhaust split on either side of the bike, but the increase in HP will be amazing.  Can't wait to test drive it. Smiley
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« Reply #118 on: November 08, 2013, 06:44:10 PM »

 The most important view is between the mirrors......
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« Reply #119 on: November 11, 2013, 09:19:47 AM »

I like that they've finally started putting the plate mount on the mud guard. If you're not into it, easy enough to replace the old fashioned way. We all like the metal tank until the bike gets tipped over and you have to replace it. The side covers were good for that IMO, fuel cell expansion issues aside. Typically, a water cooled monster doesn't make everyone happy in the Monster community because that's kind not what Monsters are about but that's the future given the EU emissions laws that everyone's going to need to comply with. Sure, Ducati could do a better job of making it clean but there's really no way to hide a radiator on a naked bike is there?
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