Monster 1200 and Harley Davidson 500/750 "cafe" racer

[Cher]

Not sure what to make of the new Monster.  I'll probably warm up to it once I see it in person; just like every other Ducati to come down the pike recently  

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2014-ducati-monster-1200-and-1200-s/full/#photo-1291485/

And here's the story of its launch at EICMA:

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/11/05/ducati-monster-1200-official-pricing/


And then there's this: a liquid cooled Harley Davidson "cafe" bike.  It is powered by a smaller version of the "Revolution X" motor co-deisgned with Porsche:

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/11/05/harley-davidson-street-500-750-videos/

Believe it  

[muskrat]

The Multi starts at nearly the same price as the "loaded" Monster........pass on both price and looks.  I still think it should have a full frame, after all it's part of the beauty IMO.

[Johnny5]

I actually love the new 1200.  It looks like my EVO with some cool changes.  Not all are great but in general I like the frame equal to my EVO, the sub-frame is MUCH better IMO on the 1200.  Also it's adjustable ride height and you can get it MUCH lower stock than the EVO (I'm short so subjective).  I think it looks like a great bike... and I'd love the power I bet.  I want to ride one.

[pesto]

I love it, but then again, I seem to love all motorcycles since I started riding last year, maybe discretion will come with experience  .

I really couldn't justify the price of the 1100 with only 20 or so more hp than the 696, even with the add-ons such as traction control. I think the higher price of the 1200 is justified. Would love to ride one, but I don't see me rolling out of the showroom on top of one. Maybe a good upgrade path in a couple of years.

Secretly I long for a dry clutch air cooled 1k+cc Monster with DSP .

If anyone is wondering there's only one 1100 left at AMS, and it's the 20th anniversary edition .

[beetlejude]

I still think it should have a full frame, after all it's part of the beauty IMO.

THIS.

[muskrat]

I love it, but then again, I seem to love all motorcycles since I started riding last year, maybe discretion will come with experience  .

I really couldn't justify the price of the 1100 with only 20 or so more hp than the 696, even with the add-ons such as traction control. I think the higher price of the 1200 is justified. Would love to ride one, but I don't see me rolling out of the showroom on top of one. Maybe a good upgrade path in a couple of years.

Secretly I long for a dry clutch air cooled 1k+cc Monster with DSP .

If anyone is wondering there's only one 1100 left at AMS, and it's the 20th anniversary edition .

first time someone's "justified" spending more for a hobby.....I like your style

And the anniversary edition is FUGLY, nothing special IMO

[Cher]

No love for the Harley then?

[muskrat]

already have one 

[Johnny5]

No love for the Harley then?

It's OK, I find it meh. The Harleys I want (badly, VERY BADLY... LOL) are the Softail SLim and the Harley 48.  Subjective though obviously.

[system error]

Agree with the full frame comment.  This new monster is worse than the old one.  Looks like a Diavel had an illegitimate child with a Streetfighter.    

Zero love for the HD too.  There are some very nice looking HDs on the market... this is not one of them. 

And this coming from a guy who owns one of the worst looking things around.   

[nickshelby500kr]

It's more of a miniature diavel than a monster really. I'm sure it won't be too long before the 796 is dropped too and and the 821 moved into its place.

[LYD]

Dont really like either

[muskrat]

shit, showed it to the Wife and now she wants to go see them when they come out.........

[caperix]

It's more of a miniature diavel than a monster really. I'm sure it won't be too long before the 796 is dropped too and and the 821 moved into its place.

I was expecting that too, though when I checked the ducati website they also list a 795 monster now, looks like its just a 796 with the 696 swingarm.

[pesto]

I was expecting that too, though when I checked the ducati website they also list a 795 monster now, looks like its just a 796 with the 696 swingarm.

I believe they sell that one in India? It's a 796 engine wedged into the 696 AFAIK.