Bog, falling on its face

Started by puddles, February 28, 2014, 06:40:56 AM

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Ddan

Undo the clamps at the top end of the filter and pull that short piece of hose off.  The pump is in a rubber sleeve that's held into a spring clamp. Work the pump out of the spring clamp and pull the whole thing out to the filler hole.  Watch the wires.


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puddles

Cool, that makes sense. I take it the inlet screen will fall off when pulling the pump through the rubber spring mount? Installation is just reverse, work the pump back into the spring clamp? Install inlet screen after installing pump? Thanks.

Ddan

The inlet screen stays on the assembly.  It can be a bit of a pregnant dog getting the pump back in the clamp, there's not much room.
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ducpainter

The pump needs to move up to the top surface of the tank then towards the filler.

I have more  trouble getting them out than back in.
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Ddan

Quote from: puddles on March 01, 2014, 05:19:10 AM
Cool, that makes sense. I take it the inlet screen will fall off when pulling the pump through the rubber spring mount? Installation is just reverse, work the pump back into the spring clamp? Install inlet screen after installing pump? Thanks.
I just re-read this.  The pump doesn't pull through the rubber, it all gets pried up out of the clamp.  DP's right, it's harder to get out than back in
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puddles

Ok, so I need to pry the clamps apart to remove. How do you pinch them back together when reassembling? Needle nose pliers?

ducpainter

Quote from: puddles on March 01, 2014, 06:36:49 AM
Ok, so I need to pry the clamps apart to remove. How do you pinch them back together when reassembling? Needle nose pliers?
No...you don't bend the clip.

The pump will slide up, it will take some force, and barely clear the clip. There is very little room in there. Sometimes a long screwdriver between the pump sleeve and the clip is necessary. To reinstall a thin film of oil on the rubber sleeve will make it much easier.
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puddles

Thanks guys for your help. Super easy to change filter. I used a long pry bar to pop the pump out of the spring clips, then just reached in an pushed it back in by hand. That 30R10 hose is *&$%^&@ expensive! 35 bucks a foot from NAPA. The hose in the tank looked fine, it wasn't deteriorating, but the ends where the clamps were was a bit smooshed, so I changed it. Now to wait for better weather. Looking like mid-next week. I'll keep you posted.

puddles

That wasn't the problem. It might be a bit smoother though. I'm thinking about pulling the injectors out and checking the spray pattern, as well as replacing all the external fuel lines. Thoughts?

ducpainter

Is this a problem that came on suddenly, or has it been like that since you owned it?
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puddles

Since I've had it, which isn't that long.

brad black

physically measure the fuel pressure.

get it on a diagnostic tool and make sure all the sensor inputs are ok.

if the idle trimmer setting is way off it could be an issue, but it should be a pig all round.
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puddles

I was hoping to eliminate as much as possible before going to the dealer.

brad black

you might just be wasting your time doing pointless crap.
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puddles

What should the fuel pressure be?