Ducati = bs?

[Betty]

Kokis I have resisted posting until now because this thread has been such a good read ... but I will try and clarify things for you.

Yes, you did fall for the marketing hype.
Yes, you did pay more than you could have for another marque.

The issue is that you say you were willing to pay more for the design, but what you really wanted to be paying more for was bulletproof reliability ... sorry to disappoint you but you didn't buy both. Considering that you bought from a relatively low production marque with an even lower market penetration (in your home market) ... it appears reasonable that you were always going to pay more. But you paid more to get what you wanted - and that is the key.

Most of us have willingly paid that premium to get what we wanted ... and we did that knowing what compromises we may need to make. Were we expecting more reliability for the money? No - most were just expecting the thing which you say you wanted: design. Perhaps you purchased without the clarity that hindsight has now provided you and you are frustrated by your own decision or lack of research - perhaps you are trying to make yourself feel better by seeking others that feel the same ... I don't know and you will need to be honest with yourself to know as well.

So, in short - yes you fell for the marketing hype (or bullshit as you so eloquently put it). If you feel guilty about that I'm afraid you have come to the wrong place looking for sympathy.

[GK]

Gladly leaving my Honda 2001 VFR800 behind for a 2001 Monster, I can understand the shock people feel when you need to do more work to keep her in tip top shape, than you would for a Japanese bike. The VFR (bought new and properly maintained) was flawless. The Ducati, although the same age, was certainly not properly looked after.

I totally agree with my good brother koko64,  that 99% of the issues with my bike that we sorted together, were totally the result of poor mechanical work done by others.

Clutch cover bolts done up sooo tight they rounded when trying to take them off, same for one of the belt pulley bolts, bad adjustments of just about everything you can imagine; valves, air fuel screws, TPS and so on. Even though I love my bike, that first year or so of trying to sort everything out was a right royal pain in the butt!

In your case, a cut out and red light once, hardly qualifies for the concerns you have raised. In the big scheme of things, you've done pretty well.

I assume from your post you're in Moscow. I imagine Ducatis there would be pretty rare!  

Even though I freely admit that my Ducati costs me more to maintain than any other bike I've owned, of all the bikes (see my signature) it's easily the one I enjoy riding the most. It just has a 'soul' that the others did not.

I hope you can come to a love of yours, the way we here love ours!

GK

[ungeheuer]

Kokis I have resisted posting until now because this thread has been such a good read ... but I will try and clarify things for you.

Yes, you did fall for the marketing hype.
Yes, you did pay more than you could have for another marque.

The issue is that you say you were willing to pay more for the design, but what you really wanted to be paying more for was bulletproof reliability ... sorry to disappoint you but you didn't buy both. Considering that you bought from a relatively low production marque with an even lower market penetration (in your home market) ... it appears reasonable that you were always going to pay more. But you paid more to get what you wanted - and that is the key.

Most of us have willingly paid that premium to get what we wanted ... and we did that knowing what compromises we may need to make. Were we expecting more reliability for the money? No - most were just expecting the thing which you say you wanted: design. Perhaps you purchased without the clarity that hindsight has now provided you and you are frustrated by your own decision or lack of research - perhaps you are trying to make yourself feel better by seeking others that feel the same ... I don't know and you will need to be honest with yourself to know as well.

So, in short - yes you fell for the marketing hype (or bullshit as you so eloquently put it). If you feel guilty about that I'm afraid you have come to the wrong place looking for sympathy.

Here's all you need to know ^^.

[Blackout]

[Grampa]

honda...no toaster

suzuki....no toaster


yamaha.....no toaster


harley.....no toaster


buell..... no toaster


mv........no toaster


aprillia....no toaster


indian.....no toaster


royal enfield.....no toaster


ural....no toaster



ktm...has a toaster but it's dumb



ducati...has toaster

[Ducatamount]

^^^
Does Ducati offer these?

[koko64]

 

[MendoDave]

Nobody knows where our Toaster is anyway.

[kopfjäger]

Nobody knows where our Toaster is anyway.

Last time I saw the little make the beast with two backser. 

[sgollapalle]

Thats some hot toaster!

[MendoDave]

Thats my sister.

[Grampa]

stu is your sister?

[MendoDave]

stu is your sister?

Why, you think he's Hot?

[Grampa]

well duh

[MendoDave]

What do you think he has in his pocket?