Track bike possibilities ? ?

[JDS 07 S4Rs]

Well, I have thought about buying a track bike again.

Here are 2 possible bikes that I am looking at.

#1  - Steve Crevier's 03 - 600 GXSR # 3 of 4. This bike was Steve's #3 Race bike. I understand that bike # 1 was a practice bike of the 1st half of the season. Bike 2 was his race bike of the 1st half of the season. Bike 3 was practice bike of last half of 03 season.
Yoshimura built motor.(cams, no stator or charging system)
Yoshimura triple tree
Factory pro billet engine covers
BMC air filter
Titanium Hindle exhaust
Galfer wave rotors (x2)
Suzuki rims 2 and 2
Ohlins rear suspension
Ohlins steering dampener
Protech front forks
RMR front forks ( on the bike )
Harris fairing stay
Harris rear sets
520 front and rear sprocket sets  ( 3 or 4 sets )
brake pads ( new )
5500.00  gets it all  !  for 6000.00 I will give you all my race take off
tires , good for track days...The guy who bought in has tracked it a few times.

#2
2002 Suzuki GSX-R 600 (750 motor) track bike
$2600
Pirelli Dragon Super Corsas
Protech front suspension
SMI-case covers
Galfer braided stainless front lines
Race bodywork
Custom aluminum fairing stay
Mid pipe heat wrap
New rad fan
Fresh battery (yuasa yt12abs)
Frame sliders
Safety wired
Rear spools
Keyless ignition w/toggle
Mission gearing
Water wetter coolant mix

Rims in excellent condition, Pirelli's have at least 2 track days left, at least 1/4 inch tread depth at center. Recent oil change & filter, recent air filter.

Stock exhaust/stock rearsets/stock rear suspension
Spare vance & hines pipe.
Spare Termignoni pipe.
Custom Kokanee overflow can.

This bike needs nothing, is ready to take to the track, stunt strip or race club. This bike can not be registered for the street.He also has pirelli diablo superbike slicks with rims & cushdrive $600
ohlins 46 prxls $500 with stock shock returned to us otherwise $600
vortex rearsets (good condition) $200
voltage regulator $50
wiring harness $75 (mint condition)
ebc full floating race rotors $100

I am really swaying towards option # 2. & Buying the Ohlins rearshock, Vortex rearsets, Rims & slicks, & floating rotors.
for under $4000. I can have all.

Any thoughts on these bikes,, Or, anyone have any better suguestions ? I would really love to track a Ducati,,,, but I am not going to throw major cash into this.

Thanx

John

[sqweak]

How comfortable are you on I4s, specifically the difference in power delivery?

For that kind of cash you could get a really well sorted SV, and stay with a familiar twin powerband.

[fasterblkduc]

Without knowing your experience, plans for bike (race or trackday), gear that you need, budget, etc. I'll assume that you are buying a trackday toy and have no race experience. If that's true than there is absolutely no question, get the cheaper bike.

[JDS 07 S4Rs]

I have over 20 Races. From,, over 20 yrs ago . & I did fairly well. Might have even won a few,, if I didnt fall off It was fun.
I still have old leathers & boots, they even fit, kinda,,, I think they shrank 

Tracktoy I guess, is what I am looking for. I dont plan on getting into this like I did yrs ago,,, tho,,,that could change. 20 + yrs ago I had kids growing up,, & spending 5 - 6 G a yr wasnt the wisest investment.(still isnt) I may have continued,, but they closed our track because it was inside the city limits(too much noise)

Would love to have the power/torque of a V twin. Would love to have a 1098 that I could afford to toss away.
The local track is basicly a Go-kart/ Supermotard track. Tho,, fastest lap is on a 1000cc I4.

 I think I can get comfy with the I4's

[gm2]

How comfortable are you on I4s, specifically the difference in power delivery?

For that kind of cash you could get a really well sorted SV, and stay with a familiar twin powerband.

powerschmand, nonsense.

+1 on go w/ the 2nd choice.

[JDS 07 S4Rs]

Thanx guys.

I am going to buy the 02 with the 750 motor(the price is right). A 650 SV would be a fun bike,, but I am over 200 LBS.
These Japs bikes built within the last 10 Yrs handle pretty good. Not like the old days when I would always get blown away down the straight away with my Duc,,,,, then slowly battle back as all the Jap bikes would wiggle all over in the corners.

We will see, this could be a short lived comeback,,, at least I wont have major amounts of cash invested in this.

[JDS 07 S4Rs]

One more possibility.

http://www.emra.ca/emraforum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=294

I just spoke to the fellow. He hasnt even raced it since he bought it. Sounds like he is motivated to sell.
Decisions decisions 

[sqweak]

I am going to buy the 02 with the 750 motor(the price is right). A 650 SV would be a fun bike,, but I am over 200 LBS.

The current WSMC points leader in about a half dozen different classes is ~250 and rides a SV.  It may not have been your choice, but that doesn't mean it's not capable and competitive.

Enjoy your gixxer!

[JDS 07 S4Rs]

250 pounds ? ? ? Yes Sqweak, your right. The SV is a very competative bike. I did consider it. If there would have been one in my area at a reasonable dollar, I may have one. Definetly a good class to race in.
The GSXR is fun. NOT liking this drive line lash tho. Makes it hard to be smooth. Very tempted to put the S4RS on the track,,,, it seems easier to ride.
3 track days( 4th may be tonight, weather pending) Only been off the track once. Knock wood ( tapping head )

[gm2]

NOT liking this drive line lash tho.

this what?

[JDS 07 S4Rs]

Drive line lash,,, is that the correct term ?. When I decel, & then accell, there seems to be alot of lash ! Almost like the drive train has to catch up to its self. The Duc has a little bit. Maybe this bike is a little sloppy. It seems to shift very nice.
I think I just need to get smoother.

[gm2]

sounds like your chain is loose.

[JDS 07 S4Rs]

I just checked,,,maybe a little, but not alot. I just checked.

I have the Duc & the GSXR both on stands & put them both in 1st gear. Rocking the rear wheels back & forth. There seems to be the same amount of play in both bikes. I bet if I took the Duc to the track I might find it has some drive line lash. Which means,,,,I am not smoooth,, I am not confident with my lines yet. I am still learning this track.

Last Fri night was a eye opener. There was a sanctioned Race at the track this weekend. Alot of the Racers from out of town showed up Fri night. Made me look silly (or sillier)

[gm2]

maybe your throttle cable has some slack or is otherwise a little effed.

clutch slip?

get the gsxr sorted, and sorted for you specifically (esp suspension-wise), and you won't find a better track bike.

[JDS 07 S4Rs]

I am still playing with the suspension. Sag is good. Springs seem about right for my weight. The front may drop a little too fast when brakes 1st applied. I will play with dampening tonight.