So my battery burst. No...literally.

Started by memper, May 17, 2014, 07:21:23 PM

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koko64

My laptop's old, fan's are probably standard now. ;D
Good luck with the warranty deal.

2015 Scrambler 800

Howie

Mine has a fan.  It still gets hotter than comfortable on your lap.

memper

Quote from: howie on May 19, 2014, 04:57:13 AM
Mine has a fan.  It still gets hotter than comfortable on your lap.
Yes, "laptop" is an erroneous term. It should never be used on ones lap. Way too much heat insulation.

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Got a call from a sales rep from Alien Motion. She was nice and accommodating. She said the technology does not really allow for that kind of failure and usually its due to a failed R/R. My case seems unusual because my R/R checks out. So its being sent back for analysis. A tech from the company is calling me later today to further discuss things.
"Calling a bikini fairing on a monster a fairing is like calliing a girl in an actual bikini proper work attire....unless shes a stripper." -He Man

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Important: always check your battery filter and regularly change your headlight fluid.

oldndumb

#18
Lack of electrical knowledge is one of my many failings therefore I usually fallback to the interweb. A site I found a while ago seems to be the most authoritative. that is probably because it is not a battery mfg site. The author is the inventor of the Cadex line of battery monitors and equipment. Speaking for myself, it has enough info to make my eyes roll back in my head, but most answers are in there if one has the patience and time to read it.

http://batteryuniversity.com/

http://www.cadex.com/en

BTW, laptops were designed to ensure sterility of those using them for extended periods.  ;)

As usual with most forum anecdotal posts the reader needs to beware, but I remember a post in which Alien batteries were discussed as a cheaper alternative to Ballistics. I went with a Shorai solely because a team owner friend had switched to them and helped me out with a discount. Just an uninformed selection which luckily has worked out.

memper,
I believe the method you used to test your R/R only verifies the integrity of the unit and is not an operational test. I understand you can't run an op test with your Alien, but I suggest installing another battery and running the operational test. Just remember, you need a good battery in the system to do a correct test. I read Alien's response and am guessing it is based on whatever internal protection scheme their design utilizes. The fact that they are communicating with you is a positive....no pun intended.  :)

memper

Quote from: oldndumb on May 19, 2014, 10:13:22 AM
Lack of electrical knowledge is one of my many failings therefore I usually fallback to the interweb. A site I found a while ago seems to be the most authoritative. that is probably because it is not a battery mfg site. The author is the inventor of the Cadex line of battery monitors and equipment. Speaking for myself, it has enough info to make my eyes roll back in my head, but most answers are in there if one has the patience and time to read it.

http://batteryuniversity.com/

http://www.cadex.com/en

BTW, laptops were designed to ensure sterility of those using them for extended periods.  ;)

As usual with most forum anecdotal posts the reader needs to beware, but I remember a post in which Alien batteries were discussed as a cheaper alternative to Ballistics. I went with a Shorai solely because a team owner friend had switched to them and helped me out with a discount. Just an uninformed selection which luckily has worked out.

memper,
I believe the method you used to test your R/R only verifies the integrity of the unit and is not an operational test. I understand you can't run an op test with your Alien, but I suggest installing another battery and running the operational test. Just remember, you need a good battery in the system to do a correct test. I read Alien's response and am guessing it is based on whatever internal protection scheme their design utilizes. The fact that they are communicating with you is a positive....no pun intended.  :)
Those sites are a headful of info and then some....weird the first one doesn't touch on Lithium Ferrous batteries just Lithium Ion.
The Odyssey is charged up and holding at 13.2v. Tomorrow it will be used for testing under load. Thanks for the literature!
"Calling a bikini fairing on a monster a fairing is like calliing a girl in an actual bikini proper work attire....unless shes a stripper." -He Man

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Important: always check your battery filter and regularly change your headlight fluid.

oldndumb

#20
You have to read more than you want to to find the sections pertaining to Lithium Ferrous because he refers to them as LiFePO4. The article is thorough but more oriented toward theory rather than practical application. Told you it was a yawner.  :)


Several postings on many forums as to how to check charging system, including at least one on this site from a Duc expert.

The author of this post is a friend and my go to resource for all things electrical/electronic. I believe his posts were the templates for several enterprising R/R retrofit online entrepreneurs. It has grown into a long thread but everything you need to know is at the beginning. Don't let the title throw you because it includes the testing procedure as well as how to swap to a MosFet unit for those without one.

http://www.triumphrat.net/speed-triple-forum/104504-charging-system-diagnostics-rectifier-regulator-upgrade.html

Howie

Quote from: oldndumb on May 19, 2014, 02:36:30 PM
You have to read more than you want to to find the sections pertaining to Lithium Ferrous because he refers to them as LiFePO4. The article is thorough but more oriented toward theory rather than practical application. Told you it was a yawner.  :)


Several postings on many forums as to how to check charging system, including at least one on this site from a Duc expert.

The author of this post is a friend and my go to resource for all things electrical/electronic. I believe his posts were the templates for several enterprising R/R retrofit online entrepreneurs. It has grown into a long thread but everything you need to know is at the beginning. Don't let the title throw you because it includes the testing procedure as well as how to swap to a MosFet unit for those without one.

http://www.triumphrat.net/speed-triple-forum/104504-charging-system-diagnostics-rectifier-regulator-upgrade.html

Thanks for the link on the batteries.  Lots of food for thought.

memper

Odyssey battery was no go. Had no capacity left. Got a loaner I'm gonna try for tomorrow.

A tech from Alien Motion contacted me. They said they'd replace the battery and cover 75% of the cost. So I pay $30 plus shipping. I think if my RR checks out that they should pay the full amount. We'll see....
"Calling a bikini fairing on a monster a fairing is like calliing a girl in an actual bikini proper work attire....unless shes a stripper." -He Man

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Important: always check your battery filter and regularly change your headlight fluid.

oldndumb

At least they are talking to you. Hopefully, that is a good sign.











dlearl476

Quote from: memper on May 17, 2014, 07:44:30 PMOh it spewed all right. Right down on my left case cover. Most of it will wash off but those are character marks right?

You're lucky. This is how my VR/Battery overheating/CDI meltdown ended up on Monday.





Thank god it wasn't the Monster. But I'll tell you what, I'm never going anywhere without a small fire extinguisher again. One the size of coke can would have averted this disaster.

memper

"Calling a bikini fairing on a monster a fairing is like calliing a girl in an actual bikini proper work attire....unless shes a stripper." -He Man

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Important: always check your battery filter and regularly change your headlight fluid.

Autostrada Pilot

dlearl,

WOW. Sorry for your loss (RIP).  Glad it wasn't the Monster.
2003 Monster 620 Dark - Sold

1999 Monster 900 City - Sold

After 7 years of Monsters, I'm sadly bikeless right now.

ChrisK

1998 M900
2007 CBR600RR Track Bike
1982 Virago 920 Cafe/Fighter Project
1980 Lambretta Moped
Supra Boats enthusiast

"There is no minimum."  - some guy.

koko64

2015 Scrambler 800

memper

"Calling a bikini fairing on a monster a fairing is like calliing a girl in an actual bikini proper work attire....unless shes a stripper." -He Man

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Important: always check your battery filter and regularly change your headlight fluid.