NEW MONSTER 821

[The ModFather]

Now you know how I feel when I read all the moaning here from "newbies". 

I knew Mike too..., but that was 1964 when he was testing MV at Spa and I was wrenching for NART. 

I cant believe they let newbies buy Ducati's. They should make them pass a history of Ducati test first or better yet no new customers. The nerve of these newbies thinking they can speak Ducati.

This type of elitist attitude serves no purpose and does nothing to further the community.

[Curmudgeon]

I cant believe they let newbies buy Ducati's. They should make them pass a history of Ducati test first or better yet no new customers. The nerve of these newbies thinking they can speak Ducati.

This type of elitist attitude serves no purpose and does nothing to further the community.

Read slower. Think you rather missed my point?  The "newbies" I reference are those who think the new bikes are less "worthy" than their fisrt generation bikes and are somehow inferior.

Companies don't survive by pandering to a tiny niche. Anyone who has the cash and likes what he sees should have one.

That's not to say that I've liked everthing they ever made either. Thankfully somebody bought them though.

Incidentally, my first was a factory 250 road racer with full fairing which a dealer for whom I did some work gave me. Didn't own another until a 900 SS because they tended to have some unreliable metalurgy. My 796 replaces my 600 SL in my stable and has a lot of the same traits I liked from that bike but with far easier ergos. This is my 8th and for the present I'm content. I'm too short and too old for some of the latest offerings but I'm glad somebody likes them.

[ungeheuer]

......... but I'm glad somebody likes them.

I couldn't care less whether somebody likes them or not.

I think the left side of these bikes looks like a bucket of vomited spaghetti.  I know they're gonna ride great.  But they look like haemorrhoids.

IMO.

[muskrat]

I prefer this http://www.ktm.com/us/naked-bike/1290-super-duke-r/highlights.html#.U5HuhOtAa7c to the new Monster no matter the displacement.  I miss the frame.   :'(

[Triple J]

Read slower. Think you rather missed my point?   The "newbies" I reference are those who think the new bikes are less "worthy" than their fisrt generation bikes and are somehow inferior.

The main complaint that I've seen about the new models involve aesthetics. I don't think anyone (or at least very many) will say the new models aren't better motorcycles than the old ones. I'm pretty sure they are (although I doubt the new water cooled motors will prove as reliable as the air cooled ones). Ducati has always been about sexy design though...and most of the new models seem to have lost that a bit.

For me, the Monster has lost its flowing feel. It now looks disjointed, and has since 696 series came out. The hacked-up, partial trellis frame is a big part of it, but the overall lines are a part as well. They're not terrible looking bikes by any stretch, but they're not as sexy as they used to be.

[Triple J]

I prefer this http://www.ktm.com/us/naked-bike/1290-super-duke-r/highlights.html#.U5HuhOtAa7c to the new Monster no matter the displacement.  I miss the frame.   :'(

Me too. Love or hate the looks of a KTM, they're not going for sexy, they're going for brutal...and they nailed it. You can ID a KTM immediately, even if it didn't have a single logo anywhere on it.

[Armor]

KTM cost $1,000 more than the new Monster "S".  To me, the new Monster is better looking than the KTM, although I would take either bike!

[The ModFather]

Now you know how I feel when I read all the moaning here from "newbies". 

I knew Mike too..., but that was 1964 when he was testing MV at Spa and I was wrenching for NART. 

I read it again real slow. But based on your comments and the quote you seem to be concurring with. I dont see your "point" clearly illustrated in your comments.

[muskrat]

KTM cost $1,000 more than the new Monster "S".  To me, the new Monster is better looking than the KTM, although I would take either bike!

Then I'll save more.   
Ducati should have just dropped that wanna be trellis so-called frame or gone all out in my book.  I'll keep my S4R with all it's "uglyness"

[Rudemouthsky]

I've only been into Monsters and Ducatis in general for around 5 years - do people always whine this much when the new models come out?

[SpikeC]

 Yup.

[ducpainter]

I've only been into Monsters and Ducatis in general for around 5 years - do people always whine this much when the new models come out?

Only when they're make the beast with two backsing ugly.

[DRKWNG]

Only when they're make the beast with two backsing ugly.

This

[Howie]

I've only been into Monsters and Ducatis in general for around 5 years - do people always whine this much when the new models come out?

Probably, certainly not when the 851, 916, slab sided Super Sport and 1st gen Monsters were released though.

[MadDuck]

Probably, certainly not when the 851, 916, slab sided Super Sport and 1st gen Monsters were released though.

Those would be classics. Kind of like us, huh?