Question about the cam tensioner 6201 bearings

Started by Rudemouthsky, July 14, 2014, 08:43:54 AM

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Howie

When you cross reference bearings from one manufacturer to another if the number is correct the s[pecs (at least theoretically since quality can differ) the specs are the same.

brad black

2rs is a generic code for sealed, but with nsk bearings they use vv to mean the same thing.

ddu seals are double contact, which i use for wheel bearings.  they are also usually brown or orangish seals, whereas 2rs are black.
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Rudemouthsky

Quote from: brad black on July 16, 2014, 04:42:25 PM
2rs is a generic code for sealed, but with nsk bearings they use vv to mean the same thing.

ddu seals are double contact, which i use for wheel bearings.  they are also usually brown or orangish seals, whereas 2rs are black.

Cool thanks. I just ordered some Nachi 6201-2NSE, orange seals, made in Japan with a really techy description. 

" Advanced Seal Design Provides
Excellent Protection and Smooth Operation
The combination of a unique lip design and seal groove provides a labrinth and steady seal contact. Breathing mechanism avoids torque increases caused by internal pressure variation due to changes in operating temperatures. NSE seals allow NACHI bearings to have constant smooth operation and long service life."

I like being "sold" on things and an odd stereotype that the Japanese make the best bearings lived in my head for some reason.
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brad black

i'm pretty sure 2nse is the same as ddu.  colour would indicate that too.
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WTSDS

Those cambelt tensioner bearings are probably the least stressed bearings that are used in any mechanical application :-) They are handling NO axial load and absolutely MINIMAL radial load.

As long as you are using sealed bearings which will handle a bit of an external dust environment WTF are you worried about ? ? ?
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Rudemouthsky

Quote from: WTSDS on July 19, 2014, 03:25:35 AM
Those cambelt tensioner bearings are probably the least stressed bearings that are used in any mechanical application :-) They are handling NO axial load and absolutely MINIMAL radial load.

As long as you are using sealed bearings which will handle a bit of an external dust environment WTF are you worried about ? ? ?

Quote from: Buck Naked on July 14, 2014, 07:44:24 PM

The RPM rating is what I'm curious about, I just wonder what the source of the; 0-15 being the "correct" range. SKF is the only brand I can find that even utilizes that series of numbers. I'm just curious. I don't think I'm going to blow up my engine no matter which one I choose.


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Privateer

Quote from: OneTrack on July 14, 2014, 05:27:22 PM
Clutch throwout bearing:
Ducati part # 702.5.016.1A - SKF 201-2RS2/LHT23 (12 x 32 x 10)

now that the original question has been answered..

when I needed one of these, i went to my local ducati dealer, knew I'd get bent over on that bearing but I didn't mind if it wasnt TOO bad.  guy looked up the price on that bearing it was $20 something.  He and I both had a good laugh at that, then he said "here, let me write down the dimensions for you, any bearing that size should be fine." there's a thread here somewhere about it, when I fried my clutch slave.

Found them local for like $5, bought two in case I screwed up.  vxb.com was actually between home and work so I did will call and got them on the way home one day.
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Privateer

i take it back.  I looked in my old thread.  dealer wanted $62 for one 6201 bearing.

10 for $10 at amazon?  i suppose that's a good deal.  I prefer to spend local.  I was just happy I didn't spend $62.
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Rudemouthsky

$62... I'd laugh if that wasn't attempted robbery
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Speeddog

Currently at Ducati they're listed as a 70240691a, price ~$17.

Which doesn't mean that a dealer didn't try to get $62 for it at some point....

I'm pretty certain that by contract dealers are required to sell OEM parts.
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Privateer

Quote from: Speeddog on July 19, 2014, 11:29:16 PM
Currently at Ducati they're listed as a 70240691a, price ~$17.

Which doesn't mean that a dealer didn't try to get $62 for it at some point....

unless he wasn't looking at the right part number in the exploded diagram.  all I know is what I asked for and what he quoted me. 
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Howie

Dealers do make up prices.  Suggested retail is...a suggestion.  At least one factory owned dealer I know of charges over suggested retail on some parts.