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Author Topic: More power in my M900 -98  (Read 25877 times)
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« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2014, 03:36:30 AM »

might happen to have a set of veetwo 210 cam's(the high torque one's)  lying around that you may be able to sway me to part with...  Cool

Of course you would have to pay freight from Straya as well...   waytogo
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« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2014, 03:40:16 AM »

I think Wik may have picked up some complete heads. popcorn
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« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2014, 03:43:56 AM »

Do you need longer valves with those?
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« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2014, 04:47:03 AM »

might happen to have a set of veetwo 210 cam's(the high torque one's)  lying around that you may be able to sway me to part with...  Cool

Of course you would have to pay freight from Straya as well...   waytogo

I'm interested if Wik isn't...
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« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2014, 04:49:07 AM »

Thats right Tony, I found a set og 8 K mile V2 heads (waiting for pictures of them as we speak Cheesy )

Sorry for asking monsta (I'm a duc noob) What would those cams do with my (future) project?

And Tony, why would I need longer valves?
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« Reply #50 on: August 04, 2014, 04:50:35 AM »

Do you need longer valves with those?
yep, they get a higher lift from having a smaller base diameter.
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« Reply #51 on: August 04, 2014, 04:55:31 AM »

Thats right Tony, I found a set og 8 K mile V2 heads (waiting for pictures of them as we speak Cheesy )

Sorry for asking monsta (I'm a duc noob) What would those cams do with my (future) project?

And Tony, why would I need longer valves?

They are made to give more torque to your engine as opposed to the the 212's which will add top end power.

They have a highr lift, thats why you would need longer valves...
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« Reply #52 on: August 04, 2014, 04:56:29 AM »

yep, they get a higher lift from having a smaller base diameter.

I see, then Buck Naked could have them. Im happy (for now  Roll Eyes )with V2 heads, fcr 41, new coils and lighter flywheel.... But next winter....  waytogo
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« Reply #53 on: August 04, 2014, 05:02:04 AM »

no worries. I'm not desperate to offload, I have a set of V heads that I was gunna play with one day, was planning using them for that.

But you can have them if you want Buck.  They were about $1200 aus when they were getting sold. so I'm looking at $600aus  (they are new)
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« Reply #54 on: August 04, 2014, 05:16:26 AM »

Sounds like they wouldn't work for my project (stock valves and manifolds, 944 kit). I'm looking for more peak power. You don't have access to a set of Veetwo adjustable pulleys tho would ya??
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« Reply #55 on: August 04, 2014, 06:51:16 AM »

ha.. nah, wish I did. They stopped making them a long time ago.
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« Reply #56 on: August 04, 2014, 05:22:13 PM »

http://www.veetwo.com.au/
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« Reply #57 on: August 05, 2014, 11:34:28 AM »


Graymonster,
My 98 M900 (charcoal) came w/ the small valve W heads. I bought a 96 900ss engine w/ complete V2 heads and had someone swap the heads 2-3 yrs ago, then I sold the 900ss engine w/ my old heads.  He didn't pull or disturb the cylinders, and 17k miles later the cyl. base gaskets are still good, no leaks. The heads were a direct swap as far as I know, no oil line differences. (My 98 does not have the external oil lines.) I did no other changes, so I was able to immediately feel the change from this swap.    Its gains were small and mostly at higher rpms. It pulled a little harder above about 4k and vibrates more too at all rpms w/ the bigger valves.  Maybe 5hp more, tops?  I then did the CCW ExactFit coils & FCR 41's w/ pods & saw cut the air box off the coil / battery box bracket about 8k miles ago. I LOVE these carbs ! Better gas mileage also!  Great honking intake sounds.  Light flywheel & minor FCR jetting updates coming next.  I'll post my jetting change info w/ RU-1750 pods once I install the new jets in case it helps BuckN or ChrisK or someone.  All parts were from CCW, great service.  For max HP, the airbox is better "they say". I prefer the open look & ease of maintenance w/o the airbox.
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« Reply #58 on: August 05, 2014, 02:58:09 PM »

If I had to do it all over again I would honestly save my cash for a 1000ds motor swap or just buy a more powerful bike if I felt like I needed more power. My problem is, I've *never* had a truly sorted out 900. I went from a 750 to a 900 that had issues from the beginning. Had a shop ruin my top end...bought a low mileage 900ss motor and right out of the gate the oil galley plug was backing out. Split the cases then went insane and here I am with a ton of money invested and still no bike. Looking back I should have kept my reliable little 750 and bought something else to satisfy my need for speed.

Now I'm way past the point of return and have no choice but to keep throwing cash at my 944 and hopefully still be riding it in 30 years. Smiley

Like Silas said it seems that no one thing makes these motors come alive...it's always better heads plus FCRs...or more compression plus FCRs. Or in my case more compression, more displacement, FCRs, and head work lol.

It really does say something about how special our bikes are...that we'll throw the kind of illogical money we do at them to have *exactly* the bike we want instead of just getting something different.
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« Reply #59 on: August 06, 2014, 12:16:25 AM »

Thx guys for a lot of help Smiley After reading just about everything on the big interweb about tuning of an M900, your advices and an email from chris at ccw, i'v decided to just do an brushup on my new V2 heads (no porting), fit FCR 41's, new coils and a lighter flywheel.

Already got better respiration with a cut open airbox (maby fit POD's and ditch the airbox?) and a custom 2-1 exhaust.

Will make an buildthread in "tech" when I start. Now I'm just going home (work on an oil rig in the north sea) and enjoy the beautifull, easy laydown, turnwilling Monster for a couple of months before winter turns up here in Norway. Then my plans will be put to action Cheesy
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