Monster 696 or Street Triple?

[Kev M]

Read the owner's manual. The starting procedure is exclusive to 696 and I've heard it's important. No personal experience; only heard that owners had a lot of trouble starting if that procedure was not followed.

Wow, maybe I'm reading you wrong today but I'm getting condescension here.

Anyway, YEAH, I read the manual like the first day we owned it thanks. Those questions I just proposed aren't answered.

Here's what it says:

Cold start control lever.
The choke control is used to favour the engine cold start and
increase the number of rpm at idle, after start-up.
Use the cold start lever while the engine is cold (1 or max. 2
T-oil bars with the engine on). The start lever is adjusted
during engine warm-up so as to guarantee approximately
1500 rpm at idle.
Operating positions of the control:
A) = control not active
B) = control fully active
The lever may be set also at intermediate positions in order
to follow the gradual warming up of the engine (see page 69).
Important
Do not use this device if the engine is warm. Do not
travel with the cold start control active.

Oh it also says:

Starting the engine
Note
Follow the “High ambient temperature” procedure to
start the engine when it is already warm.
Warning
E Before starting the engine, familiarise yourself with
the controls that you will use when riding.
Normal ambient temperature
(between 10 °C/50 °F and 35 °C/95 °F):
1) Move the ignition switch to (1). Make sure both the
green light N and the red light on the instrument
panel come on.
Important
The oil pressure light should go out a few seconds after
the engine has started (page 11).
Warning
The side stand must be fully up (in horizontal position)
as its safety sensor prevents engine start when down.
Note
The engine can be started with the sidestand down
and the gearbox in neutral. If starting with a gear engaged,
pull in the clutch lever (in this case the sidestand must be up).
2) Shift the cold-start lever to position (B, fig. 61).
3) Check that the stop switch (2) is positioned to (RUN),
then press the starter button (3).

Which seems to suggest it doesn't give a crap when you place the Stop/Run switch in the RUN position.

I still don't know if there's linkage or a stepper motor or if it's ignition timing/fuel controlled idle speed etc.

<shrugs>

[DarkMonster620]

Read the owner's manual. The starting procedure is exclusive to 696 and I've heard it's important. No personal experience; only heard that owners had a lot of trouble starting if that procedure was not followed.

696: key on, wait for gauge sweep, "choke" to full, hit start, adjust "choke" . . . finish gearing up, close "choke", go on your way . . . for some reason, a customer here did not use it, after some time, bike would start and die . . .  I checked . . . I followed procedure I had no issues . . . had customer do it . ..  no start or start and die . . . start procedure must be followed on the first start to the day or if bike has been stopped for more than 6 hours . ..  that is what I was told in class

796: key on, gauge sweep, hit start . . . it does have a stepper ...

[Kev M]

Parts book seems to show a cable coming out of the left switch assembly. Doesn't show where it connects, but my guess would be the throttle linkage.

Service manual clearly shows and describes a choke CABLE running from the left handgrip lever to the throttle bodies.

I have to assume that it is fast idle lever, though the manual doesn't clearly state such a thing.

No mention is made of any electronic input to the ECM from that switch or the result of that switch, other than we can assume since it's a basic Speed/Density EFI system activating the cable probably opens the throttle lever which in turn tells the ECM that the throttle is open over idle leading to more fuel.

The only mention of cold start strategies is based on engine temp:

Starting
When the ignition switch is turned to ON, the control unit activates the fuel pump for a few moments to pressurise the fuel supply circuit. The throttle position and engine temperature signals are processed. When the engine is turned over by the starter motor, the unit receives the engine RPM and timing signals that allow it to proceed with injection and ignition. To facilitate start-up, the mixture is enriched in accordance with engine temperature During starting, the ignition advance angle is maintained at 0° until the engine starts. When the engine starts, the ECU controls the ignition advance in accordance with the values stored in the map and makes any necessary corrections according to the air and engine temperatures.

[Curmudgeon]

Wow, maybe I'm reading you wrong today but I'm getting condescension here.

Anyway, YEAH, I read the manual like the first day we owned it thanks. Those questions I just proposed aren't answered.

Certainly not! Forgot you were from Philly. 

Have only heard just what Carlos said..., and it drives the dealers nuts! 

[Kev M]

Certainly not! Forgot you were from Philly. 

Have only heard just what Carlos said..., and it drives the dealers nuts! 

Ha ha, it's all good.

OK, so to continue my hijack. We HAVE followed that start procedure from day one and probably less than a half-dozen times it's just mysteriously failed to start and when that's happened it smells like it's flooded and if we leave it alone for 10-20 minutes it starts just fine.

That is all...

But I appreciate you getting my off my lazy ass to finally read some more of the service manual and learn there IS a cable there.