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Skybarney
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October 06, 2014, 10:37:00 AM »
For your reading enjoyment: BTW while this will not change peoples habits much it will potentially cost some bucks for mucking with the exhaust as it no longer a just a fix it ticket. Worse yet if the loud pipe can not get you pulled over it sure will make getting out a ticket a lot more difficult as a pipe ticket will likely come with a moving violation that otherwise might have been talked out of. My thoughts are that if you modify the bike and get pulled over be very very polite....
While motorcycle manufacturers have been complying with the federal law since it was effective in 1983,
the new law now makes it a state crime to operate any motorcycle registered in the state that was built on or after Jan. 1, 2013, that doesn’t have a federal Environmental Protection Agency exhaust system sound emissions label.
Yes, it is new very clear that this new California law requires street motorcycles registered in the state and built on or after Jan. 1, 2013, to have an exhaust system label certifying the motorcycles meet federal sound limits.
In addition, the California law requires aftermarket motorcycle exhaust systems made on or after Jan. 1, 2013, to display the EPA sound emissions label, and therefore applies to individuals who seek to replace the exhaust system on affected streetbikes.
Apparently, thousands of motorcyclists first tried to oppose the California bill, and then to urge Schwarzenegger to reject it.
Nick Haris says: "Many EPA labels are very difficult to locate on motorcycles. This law could lead to a flurry of tickets for motorcyclists who have legal exhaust systems with EPA labels on their machines that can’t be easily seen," explains the American Motorcyclists Association (AMA) Western States Representative expressed major concerns about the new California motorcycle exhaust law.
"It’s unreasonable to expect a law enforcement officer to easily locate an EPA label, and it’s simply unfair to expect a motorcycle owner to partially dismantle an exhaust system along the roadside to prove the label exists."
Violators face fines of up to $100 for a first offense and up to $250 for subsequent offenses
. California Judges have the discretion to dismiss the fine for first-time offenders if the violation is corrected.
Also, a violation is considered a secondary offense, meaning a police officer can’t stop a motorcyclist solely because the officer believes the motorcyclist is breaking the sound emissions label law.
Mine was built prior to January as it was a 2013 purchased in the USA in January! It's a little loophole I have not yet had to test.
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Getting rid of EPA sounds good but I think it's more about getting $$$ and politics out of the decision making on such critical matters as the environment. Let the science dictate, in my best example I'll point to the RFS. But really we should get back on topic or start a new thread. Ducati announced that you will be able to see the scrambler in person at AIMExpo. I'll be down in Daytona all next week for Bike Octoberfest and riding with my sister, normally I would not go over to Orlando but I might just make an exception. - Gene
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Back on topic is completed.
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Smart prune mods - thanks (and sorry about the hijack).
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Didn't I also read that they have proposed that you need a label on a race bike even, red in color? - Gene
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Quote from: twolanefun on October 06, 2014, 11:21:28 AM
Didn't I also read that they have proposed that you need a label on a race bike even, red in color? - Gene
IIRC the red/green thing is more for off-road as in red is something like off-road race track areas only, and green allows use in the wildlife areas where OHVs are permitted. Someone from Cali can probably clear that up. I'm not expert I'm a few thousand miles east.
I know that my dealer would sell the bike and it would magically be delivered sans the canister and such.
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Re: Canister whingeing
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Catch phrase in the Scrambler DNA page
"The images showed can refer to prototypes that may undergo modifications, also of a significant nature, during the industrialization phase and are therefore solely informative, providing reference. The images are thus in no way binding for Ducati Motor Holding S.p.A., a sole shareholder company, subject to the management and coordination activities of Audi AG"
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What the hell does canister whingeing even mean?
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Kalifornia. Just don't sell bikes there. Problem solved. With half the cities bankrupt, the state on the verge and a mass exodus of population fleeing that cess pool it is not like companies will be losing a lot of sales.
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Quote from: SDRider on October 06, 2014, 06:19:04 PM
What the hell does canister whingeing even mean?
I am guessing it is one of those British euphemisms. Kinda like "smoking a fag". Does not really have much to do with killing a gay guy and sounds just odd.
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Re: Canister whingeing
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Quote from: Skybarney on October 07, 2014, 04:47:18 AM
I am guessing it is one of those British euphemisms. Kinda like "
blowing a fag
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Does not really have much to do with a gay guy and sounds well....
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Re: Canister and dyno whingeing
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Quote from: Drjones on October 07, 2014, 03:42:34 AM
Kalifornia. Just don't sell bikes there. Problem solved. With half the cities bankrupt, the state on the verge and a mass exodus of population fleeing that cess pool it is not like companies will be losing a lot of sales.
California is the single largest market in the US for sales. Probably a quarter of all Ducatis sold in the US go to California.
A better solution would be to just remove the canister like everyone does. Takes 10 minutes, 15 tops. Done and done.
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Re: Canister whingeing
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Quote from: Skybarney on October 07, 2014, 04:47:18 AM
I am guessing it is one of those British euphemisms. Kinda like "smoking a fag". Does not really have much to do with killing a gay guy and sounds just odd.
British for "whining"
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Re: Canister and dyno whingeing
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Quote from: Drjones on October 07, 2014, 03:42:34 AM
Kalifornia. Just don't sell bikes there. Problem solved. With half the cities bankrupt, the state on the verge and a mass exodus of population fleeing that cess pool it is not like companies will be losing a lot of sales.
Wow, whole lot of misinformation and B.S. in this post.
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Re: Canister and dyno whingeing
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Quote from: SDRider on October 07, 2014, 11:20:02 AM
Wow, whole lot of misinformation and B.S. in this post.
I'll second that!
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