Alternatives to expensive Ducati parts

[Speeddog]

I'm pretty sure the early model will work, it just won't have the extra mount on the right hand end.

[Dave R]

I'm pretty sure the early model will work, it just won't have the extra mount on the right hand end.

thank you!

[ridgebackdog]

Interchangeable Oil filters list

Thread started by meano_lover in Au 04 08; I was looking for a non OEM filter today and the auto store was totally confused; I would have gone to a Motorcycle store but there all closed on Sunday.

From MMacky

Here is the most complete list I could find.  I last used the NAPA filter, and at that time it was made by Mann of Germany.  Excellent quality for about $7.

US available: (exact)
  K & N KN-153
  Perf-Form DUC-1
  Athena FFP011 (Ducati OEM)
  Scott's Performance (permanent washable replacement)

US available: (near exact, fits fine.  length may vary)
 Fram PH6074 (was PH2839, PH2864A)
  Purolator ML16829C (was FC 103 or OC 5)
  AC Delco FX0011 (was X4A)
  Motorcraft EFL 47
  NAPA: 1352 (1352NAPA and 551352 on the box)

Non US:
  Champion H101
  Cooper Z64
  Powertrain FL125
  Fiaam FT4654, FT 4847 or PA7059
  Purflux LS187
  Halfords HOF216
  Tecafilter Ref OC5
  Technocar R12, R72, R434
  Knecht OC 5 (equivalent to Ducati #065149960 and #090549960)
  TJ FB2094
  Mann & H W712/9, W712/11
  Unipart GFE 201


Good cross reference list I ran across a long time ago - glad I kept it now.

Grumby

AC Delco FX0011 (was X4A)   
Motorcraft EFL 47
Champion H101   
NAPA: 1352 (1352NAPA and 551352 on the box)
Cooper Z64
Powertrain FL125
Fiaam FT4654, FT 4847 or PA7059   
Purflux LS187
Fram PH6074 (was PH2839, PH2864A)   
Purolator ML16829C (was FC 103 or OC 5)
Halfords HOF216   
Tecafilter Ref OC5
K & N KN-153   
Technocar R12, R72, R434
Knecht OC 5 (equivalent to Ducati #065149960 and #090549960)   TJ FB2094
Mann & H W712/9, W712/11   
Unipart GFE 201


Desmo Demon

I switched to using the K&N simply for the welded nut on the end of it. It makes removal sooooo easy.

Here's an interesting tidbit......if you are in a crunch and on a trip somewhere and NEED a filter but cannot find one, go to the local Harley-Davidson dealer.......yes, the local Harley dealer......There are certain mid-80's Harleys that use similar filters. I use the K&N 153 on my '85 FXEF, also.

(So, if you want a chrome filter for your Duc, you can use K&N 172C)   

The differences are that the KN-153 has a 1.45 psi higher pressure relief valve and is 0.209" (6mm) longer than the KN-172C. The KN-172C also does not have an anti drain back valve (so an OEM Harley filter should have similar specs to the KN-172C). The last time I bought a filter from the HD dealer, the black one was $5-$6. I think the old 100k+ mile engine can use the higher pressure that the KN-153 supplies, though


KN-153 specs...
Product Style: Oil Filters
Height: 3.331 in (85 mm)
Outside Diameter: 3.059 in (78 mm)
Thread Inside Diameter: M16 x 1.5
PSI Relief Valve: 15.08
Anti Drain Back Valve: Yes
Style: Canister
Weight: 0.7 lb (0.3 kg)
Product Box Length: 3.25 in (83 mm)
Product Box Width: 3.25 in (83 mm)
Product Box Height: 3.5 in (89 mm)

KN-172C specs...
Product Style: Oil Filters
Height: 3.122 in (79 mm)
Outside Diameter: 3.059 in (78 mm)
Thread Inside Diameter: M16 x 1.5
PSI Relief Valve: 13.63
Anti Drain Back Valve: No
Style: Canister
Finish: Chrome
Weight: 0.6 lb (0.3 kg)
Product Box Length: 3.25 in (83 mm)
Product Box Width: 3.25 in (83 mm)
Product Box Height: 3.25 in (83 mm)

I've been using Carquest oil filter #84013 for several years (2001 M900 S. I. E.). It's about $10.00 and it's chrome, if you care about that, I don't. Works just fine, it's actually listed in their catalog. While I'm there I also get NGK DCPR8E, stock#4339 for about $2.50 each. Not the cheapest, but very good. And, for me at least, very convenient.

[Speeddog]

Dunno if it's in here or not, a search didn't show it.

Submersible fuel line, 30R10 rated, manufactured by Gates.

5/16" size, 1' length, NAPA part# NBH-H209, ~$30

Applicable to all steel tank FI Monsters.

[krista]

I'm not sure I trust that one. The only hose we've used that doesn't turn into goo is the stuff from Helix Racing.

[Speeddog]

I'm not sure I trust that one. The only hose we've used that doesn't turn into goo is the stuff from Helix Racing.

I've been using the Gates 30R10 hose for ~3 years, no issues.

If the hose from Helix is less costly, great.

[ducpainter]

I've been using the Gates 30R10 hose for ~3 years, no issues.

If the hose from Helix is less costly, great.

Same here...

ducvet uses it too.

[the_Journeyman]

Main relay for older Monsters (Mine is a '99 and it fits)

Advance Auto Parts #R3074.  Earlier in the thread, there was a Bosch & Borg Warner that were are different relay FYI.

JM

[Kabulpostie]

Not a huge deal, but will save time and money. Oil plug from auto parts store will fit lambda/O2 sensor plug hole in exhaust for S2R and I would guess others. cost me $3 at O'riellys vs $6  plus shipping (so $10 total) ordering online.

[Rudemouthsky]

Complete headlight sans bucket:

http://www.headlightbmwmotorcycle.com/Product_description.html

Same as the eBay seller; "Superrjerrk". Nice guy too, helped me out with some ? about spring clips and assembly despite the fact I wasn't buying anything from him.

He also sells the chrome ring, spring clips, gasket, reflector etc separately.

Spring clips only, check this out:

http://www.eisparts.com/111941125/Clip+Spring+Set,Headlight+Bucket,+All+Bug+%26+Bus.html

Don't think they are a match but I'm sure they could be tweaked to work.

Turn signal relay/flasher:

Norvita EP35, $12. It's also LED compatible so no need for resistors when using LED's.

Spark plug wires:

NGK CR5 8515 premium wire set:

http://summerlandautosport.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=2483

$14.79, which is by far the cheapest I found anywhere else. Next closest was $18 and most placed charged over $20. VG wires too.

[puddles]

Anyone know about cheaper steering head bearings for a 2000 900ie? Stockers are over 50 bucks a piece. I'm thinking Timkin number?

[Rudemouthsky]

Anyone know about cheaper steering head bearings for a 2000 900ie? Stockers are over 50 bucks a piece. I'm thinking Timkin number?

The Timken part # is hard to find and they are actually more expensive than OE. Weird I know but I tried going down that path. All Balls Racing has tapered bearings for your Monster for around $50 for the pair. Motowheels/Speedymoto for around $60 I believe.

 The Timkens are $75 EACH if you can even find em.

[puddles]

Thanks Buck. Saved me a lot of aggravation and coin. I ordered from all balls.

[Rudemouthsky]

Thanks Buck. Saved me a lot of aggravation and coin. I ordered from all balls.

Cool, glad I could help! I literally lol'd the first time I called the dealer for those and was told $100. Thought for sure Timken would have a $12 equivalent. They do have a common one that's literally 1mm narrower otherwise the same thing in that $10-$12 range. I think even $50 is over priced for some fukn bearings.

[Rudemouthsky]

Sorry if it's been posted already, but FIVE BUCKS for what is probably the BEST filter you can get (according to Ducatiz's filter forensics thread)

http://www.powersportsuperstore.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=hf153+filter&Search.x=0&Search.y=0