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MonsterMadMarty

January 27, 2015, 06:18:03 AM
I picked up a 2002 M400 just over a week ago I got it cheap as it had been dropped I've managed to replace all the damaged parts except the tank which has rather a large dent! I've tried a few places locally here in Perth, Western Australia but have been told "the metal is too thick and strong to do with my tools" & "sorry inner baffles won't allow it to pop out"

So, any advise??????

Can it be done? How can I do it myself? Can anyone recommend anyone in Perth that could do it?  Do I give up and use another tank?

I'm not after a prefect result as it will need repainting anyway!

RIDING - 1993 M900 x 2; 2007 M400; 2007 Factory 900XR

Recently purchased: Fire damaged 2001 S4!

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ducpainter

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January 27, 2015, 06:24:13 AM
They're correct...the shape makes it impossible to do conventionally.

I use this...



It's called a stud welder and it allows pulling from the outside without drilling holes and using a more common screw type slide hammer.
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MonsterMadMarty

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January 27, 2015, 06:29:01 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on January 27, 2015, 06:24:13 AM
They're correct...the shape makes it impossible to do conventionally.

I use this...



It's called a stud welder and it allows pulling from the outside without drilling holes and using a more common screw type slide hammer.


Oooo..... What do they retail for?..
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Recently purchased: Fire damaged 2001 S4!

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ducpainter

#3
January 27, 2015, 06:38:43 AM
About $400 US...that one is fairly heavy duty. Google Motor Guard stud welders

There are cheaper ones, but any way you cut it not really a one use tool.

You still need to be careful. You can pull the stud off along with the tank metal resulting in a hole that needs to be welded.
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MonsterMadMarty

#4
January 27, 2015, 06:47:26 AM
Cheers DP I've been looking on fleaBay they all seem to come from the states! The 110 volts is no good here in Australia! (240 volts).  I'll keep looking  [coffee]
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SpikeC

#5
January 27, 2015, 10:28:53 AM
 I saw a version of this on the TV program "Wheeler Dealers" a while back. I don't believe that he gave a brand name butt it used a little more gentle puller than a slide hammer. They were doing it in England so Straya might have something somewhere in the country.
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ducpainter

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January 27, 2015, 10:34:55 AM
Quote from: SpikeC on January 27, 2015, 10:28:53 AM
I saw a version of this on the TV program "Wheeler Dealers" a while back. I don't believe that he gave a brand name butt it used a little more gentle puller than a slide hammer. They were doing it in England so Straya might have something somewhere in the country.

Just because the hammer slides...

doesn't mean you have to use it that way. ;)
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monsta

#7
January 27, 2015, 11:24:08 AM
At 400$ US for the tools, just buy another second hand tank...
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ducatiz

#8
January 27, 2015, 11:49:19 AM
http://www.harborfreight.com/stud-welder-dent-repair-kit-98357.html

mine was $100 7 years ago. still works great. 
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#9
January 27, 2015, 11:54:02 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on January 27, 2015, 11:49:19 AM
http://www.harborfreight.com/stud-welder-dent-repair-kit-98357.html

mine was $100 7 years ago. still works great. 
Still not going to help him if he needs 240V.
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Blackout

#10
January 27, 2015, 11:56:07 AM
Tank dents are manly. Just throw a sticker over 'em.
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Speeddog

#11
January 27, 2015, 01:09:04 PM
240V *and* 50 Hz in Oz.  :-\

These guys can help in converting your power to something compatible:
http://www.220-electronics.com/diamond-series-voltage-converters-stabilizers.html

That Harbor Fright stud welder says 40 amp peak, at 120V that's 4800W.
But it's only for 1 second.

My shop-mate has a stud welder, and it doesn't seem to cause problems with our dodgy electrical system.

But.... have a chat with your favorite local Sparky to choose which one is best.

I've no idea how tolerant those converters are to short-term loads like that.
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#12
January 27, 2015, 04:36:06 PM
I have seen it done with compressed air ...seal all openings pump in air till it pops out .

Now I have tried it but it was on a car gas tank , not a bike ...it did work but the tank puffed up quite a bit kind of un-nerving 

Speeddog

#13
January 27, 2015, 08:50:44 PM
Compressed air is not a good plan on a moto tank.
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MonsterMadMarty

#14
January 28, 2015, 01:55:54 AM
Quote from: monsta on January 27, 2015, 11:24:08 AM
At 400$ US for the tools, just buy another second hand tank...

...and miss out on an excuse to buy more tools! I have two spare tanks it's more the challenge and opportunity to learn  ;D
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Recently purchased: Fire damaged 2001 S4!

My greatest fear in life is that when I die my better half will sell my Ducati's and tools for the price I told her I paid for them!
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