Reliable Easy increase of power of 821?

[DarkMonster620]

As far as factory, nothing apart from Termi Race Kit with Upmap for an average 10% on a good day . . . more realistic, an average of 8% under regular conditions. "This upmap", uses the O2 sensors

Since ECU is  Continental/SiemensVDO unit, some tuners might have already cracked the code for it and someone should be coming out with a "Performance Air Filter" soon . . . Regarding exhausts, same as for air filter, mostly aftermarket . . .

Need/want more power, get a M1200/S . . .

Unless you commited yourself to a "racing series" the goodies are gonna be kept under lock and key at the factory in Bologna . . . And then, bike would be "RACE TRACK ONLY"

[ZenMonster]

interesting stuff.  A lot to consider.  It will be cool to learn about one of these bikes.  I love the idea of a technologically modern machine for once.  The harley style push-rod v-twins are fun (especially the Big Dog's 117 CI), but I am longing for something that really makes the most of the technology available today.  Should be fun. 

[EEL]

Want technology, buy a new R1.

[brad black]

the only way to get 1200 performance from an 821 is to trade it on a 1200.

[ZenMonster]

So... I test road the Monster 821.  I don't want to offend anyone who has one, but I was not impressed.  It really didn't feel any faster then my Harley.  Definitely less torque.  Disappointing.  I did, however test ride the Diavel.  That sucker is a horse of a different color.  It was just begging me to whack the throttle, and man did it reward me for the effort!  I have some thinking to do... really didn't want to spend an extra $11,000!

[koko64]

Maybe this is a sign to get the M1200?
I like the Diavel.

[DarkMonster620]

If you were expecting lower end punch . . . we know the 821 is lacking . . . The M1200/S is different . .  The Diavel, well, yes, it has ALL the power you want[162HP], plus cornering clearance plus braking power . ..

[brad black]

without wishing to cause anyone offence, it frustrates me that people don't understand the relationship between capacity and torque.  and the expectations that come from that.

torque is very much related to capacity.  how efficient the engine design is also plays a part, but it's much less influential.  so an 800cc engine should have 66% of the torque of a 1200.  an engine that revs higher will often have higher bmep (torque per cc), but the delivery (shape of the curve) variation between a low revving 1200 2v and a high revving 800 4v will exaggerate that difference.

we had quite a few owners complain that their 748R had less midrange than their 748.  it made me want to slap them.

[ZenMonster]

Sooo... I bought a 2015 Diavel Dark!    Couldn't resist!  I'm I still allowed to hang out here? 

[DarkMonster620]

Sooo... I bought a 2015 Diavel Dark!    Couldn't resist!  I'm I still allowed to hang out here? 

Yes .. .. ..

Now, the complete exhaust will give you 8% more power/torque . . .

[ZenMonster]

That will have to be next on the list

[DarkMonster620]

.... Oh, in black> ceramic coated

[SpikeC]

 Hooty-Hoo!! Have fun with that Bad Boy!

[koko64]

In for a penny in for a pound! Good for you!
Looking forward to seeing it. They are a wicked looking bike.
Cheers.

[ZenMonster]

Thanks guys!  Those black ceramic Termis are sweet... Unbelievably expensive, but sweet!