ABS on an old Monster

[Dochunt]

Pardon my ignorance.
Is it possible to change the front brakes to have ABS on an older Monster.
I found a good S2R 1000 with low miles, but I would like a bike to have ABS.
Has anyone tried?
Thank

[stopintime]

New ABS reservoir/box - little room for that.

New plumbing - I suppose that's possible.

Sensors front and back - custom fabricated mounts.

Where it gets complicated is the ECU brain control of the ABS operation - maybe there's an aftermarket bike ABS electronic system...


Many must have thought about it, but I'd bet a lot that none has done it on a Monster.

[Slide Panda]

Possible... sure.

Possible at a reasonable price point... probably not.

Like most of life, almost anything is possible with enough time and money. But as stopintime notes you're looking at the potential of a number of custom parts, or even getting the computer gear from a new ABS bike, and dealing with reprogramming it (if possible) to properly operate a different engine.

Off the cuff, you're probably looking at $2000-$3000 of parts and effort - and that's used part. But could be worse.

[ducpainter]

I'd buy the S2R 1000 and use the difference for some rider training if you don't have a ton of riding experience.

ABS is a nice feature but IMO, like any driver aid, it's no replacement for skill.

[Dochunt]

Fantastic advise.
I am going to check out the bike this weekend, I will not worry about the lack of ABS.

[Curmudgeon]

The ABS on your 796 works and it's quite non-intrusive. The best I've had so far. Not a panacea of course. Works best for stuff you don't see in the road.

They didn't mention the tank-swelling on the S2R 1000 though...   

[Dochunt]

No one told me about the tank swelling, Is that due to the plastic tank, Can something be done about it?

[kopfjäger]

http://www.pure-gas.org/

[Curmudgeon]

No one told me about the tank swelling, Is that due to the plastic tank, Can something be done about it?

Have fun.  http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=43639.0

There was a lengthy thread of 100? pages before this. Painter might have deleted it or it's buried somewhere and I'm just retarded. 

Incidentally, the newer Monsters starting with 696 and 1100S have more weight over the front end. You are already spoiled. 

[ducpainter]

Painter might have deleted it or it's buried somewhere and I'm just retarded. 

Nothing gets deleted. Some stuff gets moved from sight.

If you took anywhere near the time to search for stuff as you do listening to yourself talk you wouldn't need to be so hard on yourself.

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=25074.0

[Dochunt]

Read some of those posts, what a mess.
Food for thought

[SpikeC]

 I don't believe that tank swelling is such an issue if the bike is ridden regularly. It is mostly caused by phase separation in undisturbed fuel over time. The alcohol will settle to the bottom of the tank and absorb moisture which is then easily absorbed by the plastic that the tank is made from. At least that is how it was explained to me, I never noticed a problem with the 2 monsters that I owned and rode most every day.
 YMMV!

[ducpainter]

Spike is mostly correct.

When the fuel is in the tank for extended periods it has more chance to absorb water which is what causes the swelling. Most fuel available in the world already has some water in it which also contributes.

[Greg]

The alcohol will settle to the bottom of the tank and absorb moisture which is then easily absorbed by the plastic that the tank is made from.

Close, but not quite. What happens is the ethanol can absorb water, up to a certain point (depending on temperature). Once it gets overloaded with water, the ethanol and water separate out of the gasoline and fall to the bottom of the tank. Here is a pretty good article on it.

http://www.lcbamarketing.com/phase_separation_in_ethanol_blen.htm

[Dochunt]

So if you ride regularly, then it should not be a big issue.
How do you check for the swelling on a bike you are planning to buy?