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« on: June 21, 2015, 02:20:32 PM »

I am doing a track day on my S2R1000 at the end of the month. I've done track days on my RC51 before but not on my Monster. Is there anything I need to prep for that's unique to the Monster? I am curious if I am going to have enough ground clearance? I have the bike raised about 5mm at the ride height adjuster already but can't go up anymore as its seized and won't have enough time to get a new one.

Anything else I should look out for?
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2015, 02:23:11 PM »

Footpegs and side stand.
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2015, 02:36:20 PM »

Was afraid that foot pegs would be an issue. Are you speaking from experience specifically to the S*R series?

No time to get raised pegs or rearsets. I guess I will have to compensate by hanging off more, or go slower ;(

I'll take off my kick stand. Hadn't thought about that because that was a non issue with my Honda.
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2015, 02:49:57 PM »

Was afraid that foot pegs would be an issue. Are you speaking from experience specifically to the S*R series?

No time to get raised pegs or rearsets. I guess I will have to compensate by hanging off more, or go slower ;(

I'll take off my kick stand. Hadn't thought about that because that was a non issue with my Honda.
I rode my M900 on the track for years. The pegs would drag so bad they'd trap my feet between the pegs and the frame...and that's with the rear raised all the way and hanging off. The bikes aren't that different.

The early bikes had no 'nub' to assist in deploying the stand. I believe the S*R series does and that's the part that drags.
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2015, 03:42:06 PM »

With upgraded and tuned suspension I seldom/never drag footpegs at max lean angle on track day tires.

The kick stand is never a problem...

5mm at the height adjuster (less than two full turns) raises the bike quite a lot more (geometry thing) and should remove all doubts. Assuming the suspension is tuned. (if it gets too nervous, raise the front to compensate)
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2015, 07:14:57 PM »

Hmmm, two different people saying two different things.

I guess I just have to try it and see what happens.

I do have Gold Valves w/ Ohlins spring in the front and 998 Ohlins in the rear. The ride height adjuster shows 4-5 threads (I believe) but it's seized so I can't go anything higher. I do planning on ordering a Corse Dynamics one but won't have it done before the trackday.
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2015, 10:24:01 PM »

   I have a blast tracking my s2r800, though it's been a while.   My main complaint would be the shape of the tank, as the back of it does not have any angle to lock your outer leg on while hanging off;  if you're into that sort of thing...     At 5'9 I've had to devise/repurpose my own track pad system that protrudes from the rear of the tank, as well as add traction pins to the tips of my rearsets to help lock my outside foot and leg to the bike.   
   And I know that everybody praises the 14T front sprocket but I often find it to be more enjoyable to be geared high with the 15T and just work on carrying momentum.   You can often run a pretty aggressive pace and still only have to drop only one, maybe two gears (downshifting) for corner entry.   That leaves way more time to focus on cornering fundamentals and braking rather than trying to contain that extra downshift with the clutch while you're tipping it in.  Plus, the 2V's go flat and feel nervous in their upper RPMs.   Riding in the meaty torque is where all of the fun is at and being geared tall broadens that range for the sake of recreation.
   Bring a tire gauge and ask the vendors what pressure to run (hot or cold) based on your brand, compound, and track conditions.
   If you haven't sorted your suspension yet and simply bolted on more sophisticated stuff,  it might be worth paying the small fee to have a tuner check over your baseline setting and record them.   But as long as there's nothing horribly wrong with the handling, I believe that the first few sessions (and possibly the entire day) should be spent on just learning the track and recognizing your own strengths and weaknesses.  Assessing the bike can come later.   It's quite easy to fall down the rabbit hole of chasing suspension set-ups and forget to enjoy the experience of riding and learning to adapt to the quirks of a bike.
   If you must tinker with the bike and turning knobs isn't enough for you, you still have a world of adjustment with the front height (raising/lowering forks in triples or preload).   This drastically effects tip in, mid-corner stability, exits, and even braking.  Stick to single adjustments and always measure, mark, document, and assess the changes so that you can always get back to where you were.   I know it's hard to believe, but i've found perfect set-ups where a 2mm change in the wrong direction made it feel dangerous to ride...  But again, don't get so caught up in fiddling that you forget to have a good time!  Anxiously awaiting the ride report.
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2015, 08:53:23 AM »

If you're sprung correctly, I can't see the kickstand being an issue.   I've never ran the stock rearsets on track but from looking at photos, I run mine nearly 6" higher than stock placement.   If you check my past posts, namely page 10 in the good form/bad form thread, you'll get an idea of my set up.  There should even be a video link somewhere early in the thread where at the very end, when I dismount from the bike, you can see the tank pad that I run for grip.
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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2015, 01:40:12 PM »

Did my trackday yesterday. I'm happy to report that nothing dragged except my right toe but thats due to my body position. Gotta work on the right side Tongue

I have PSR pegs which are longer than stock ones. Surprised they didn't drag.
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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2015, 08:25:12 AM »

Good to hear waytogo Had my 1098S at the track quite often. But I'd really like to take the S2R out a few times as I've grown quite fond of her
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2015, 12:42:31 PM »

I crashed out because my kickstand rubbed the raised red/white strips, picked up the rear and low sided. Tongue
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