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« on: June 30, 2015, 06:44:08 PM »

Apparently my nasty, kinky old chain is out to get me: at a maintenance workshop I just did the garage owner told me new ones are needed.

Since my bike is all black, nice opportunity for a black chain  Grin

Recommendations? Are they all the same?

What about sprockets? Change to 14 teeth on the front?

What else?
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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2015, 07:54:07 PM »

Its good to go up a few teeth on the back equal to one down on the front if you are changing out the whole set.
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2015, 08:54:08 PM »

No, they are not all the same.  Our sponsor California Cycleworks will set you up and answer all your questions.
https://ca-cycleworks.com/products/final-drive
If you want black I think you will need to go with RK.  I don't know what you are riding, but if your bike has a single sided swing arm consider getting a quick change set up.  Expensive now but cheaper and easier in the future.
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2015, 06:06:43 AM »

Supersprox Stealth

I cant remember where I got mine but Google can probably help. Excellent quality, its an aluminum carrier with steel teeth for longevity...and its all black.
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2015, 07:52:18 AM »

Supersprox Stealth

I cant remember where I got mine but Google can probably help. Excellent quality, its an aluminum carrier with steel teeth for longevity...and its all black.

This.

It's just slightly more expensive than getting a stock rear sprocket but will more than pay for itself on the next change out...
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2015, 08:39:23 AM »

Its good to go up a few teeth on the back equal to one down on the front if you are changing out the whole set.

+1.

Changing the front down a tooth is the same as changing the back up a few.  Most people do the 14 front change because you can do it easily without removing many parts.  To change the rear sprocket is more involved.  But if you are putting on a new chain entirely, it's only a little more work to swap out the rear sprocket.

Why do a larger rear rather than smaller front?  General thought is the smaller front bends the change more and causes it to wear faster.  I don't know how much data is out there to support this theory, but I buy into it.  My bike had a 14 front from the PO and when I bought new wheels I decided to go back to a 15 front and increase the rear to 42.  It is roughly the same ratio as the 14/39 I was replacing.

There is a good webpage about drivetrain numbers that is worth reviewing.  I think it is Brad Black's site, but I can't find the page I'm thinking of.  I will post a link if/when I find it.




[Edit - here it is:

 http://www.bikeboy.org/ducgearing.html

As you can see in the chart at the bottom of the page, my 14/39 that the PO had installed is nearly identical to the 15/42 I put on when I changed wheels.  Of course, if you are looking for tighter or looser gearing, the chart provides a nice sense of what the effect is and how it compares to your current setup.]
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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2015, 08:56:20 AM »

Some more food for thought:

Bear in mind that sprockets are rotating masses, which means that any weight saving is multiplied by four in actually effect (I can't seem to find consensus on this multiple, with one source saying 10x (no way!) and another saying 2.5x, but the point is the effect is greater than 1x).  So, for example, a wheel that is 3 lbs lighter has the effect of removing 12 lbs of unsprung weight off the bike.  So that may be motivation to shell out the extra cash for a lighter sprocket.

On the other hand, lighter sprockets are made from softer material like aluminum, which wear faster.  So it comes down to: do you to emphasize durability or speed?
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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2015, 09:39:57 AM »

Smaller front sprocket in theory does increase chain wear though you would be hard pressed to find a difference in the real world.  Maintenance is a much bigger factor.  If you raise the rear chain guide wear can be a problem on some models.  The Superlight rear steel sprocket is about the same weight as the Supersprox for the DSS bikes, not sure about the others.
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