Ducati Performance Parts vs. Regular Ducati Parts

[The ModFather]

Is there any difference in quality in the DP stuff? I ask because I'm deciding between a Ducati Performance Dry Slipper Clutch Kit and a different Kit that comes with a regular Ducati Slipper clutch. Is DP any better than regular Ducati? Whats the straight dope here?

[DarkMonster620]

Regular stuff is made by the "contractor" in case of newer bikes, Testatretta 11° engines and Panigale[all] use FCC brand clutch, X96/Scrambler use the "Adler/ADIGE" APTC system . . .

DP parts are made by the same manufacturers you are mentioning under the Ducati Performance brand, yes it is a brand, but, under some 'guidance' from Ducati on how parts should look and feel . . .So if you buy some DP lights or mirrors you might be purchasing either Rizoma or Ducabike, if you get a clutch, you might be getting an EVR or some other brand . . .

[dufukincati]

The dp slipper has the inferior spider spring design. Go with the evr.

[The ModFather]

The dp slipper has the inferior spider spring design. Go with the evr.

Thats good info I wasn't aware. I did hear that all the parts in the 848 DP dry slipper conversion kit except the friction plates cant be replaced with any other parts even from other Ducati dry slippers. So you gotta buy a whole new kit!! WTF?!
What about the Ducati Corse Dry Slipper clutches? Are those any better?
My problem is Im converting a Sport 1000 from wet to dry so I need a conversion kit & I don't believe EVR makes one.
My two options are the Bursi Evo dry slipper conversion Kit that I think uses Ducati Corse clutches
Or
the DP 848 dry slipper conversion kit.

[koko64]

Interesting thread.

[koko64]

It is interesting knowing which mfrs makè the various Ducati/DP parts. On many Ducatis I see the Adige brand on oem pressure plates. I didnt know about aftermarket mfrs like EVR, etc g eing involved. I guess its like Gates making cam belts for Ducati back in the day.

[ducpainter]

It is interesting knowing which mfrs makè the various Ducati/DP parts. On many Ducatis I see the Adige brand on oem pressure plates. I didnt know about aftermarket mfrs like EVR, etc g eing involved. I guess its like Gates making cam belts for Ducati back in the day.

Who makes the belts now?

[koko64]

I dunno.  Maybe Gates are still involved. Carlos our resident "dealer" should know. 

[DarkMonster620]

I dunno.  Maybe Gates are still involved. Carlos our resident "dealer" should know. 

ssshhhhhhh.....some are Gates and some are a japanese brand . . . have no idea which are which since thwy just say Ducati

[Speeddog]

Late last year I converted an 848 with a 'kit' that the owner pieced together off of EBay and the like.

He's been quite happy with it, and I'll have it back in shortly for some other work, and can see how it's holding up.

There's a bushing that gets pressed into the end of the trans shaft, to hold the needle bearing.
The one that came with his batch of parts would have been impossible to install as it was, or at best would have murdered the needle bearing.
That bushing is basically permanently installed... so keep in mind that you're committed to a dry clutch.

[koko64]

That's good to know. I know someone who sold their M944 for a MTS1100 who is very fond of dry clutches.

[The ModFather]

The dp slipper has the inferior spider spring design. Go with the evr.

I guess this is true for all Ducati Slipper Clutches then as I believe they all use the spider spring . I'm considering keeping it wet going with the EVR and using the Ducabike clear clutch cover but the EVR slipper for wet only comes in Gold so for me on a Red 1000s would not work visually (just my opinion).
When you say inferior is it in performance or Mean Time Between Failures (or both).
I've read about folks having issues with the spider spring cracking on the Ducati Clutches. Do you think that's a more likely occurrence on the dry slipper clutches? I would think the wet Slipper Clutch might be a bit more forgiving in terms of the beating it would take versus the Dry.

[dufukincati]

Spider springs design systems have issues with stack height and fatigue which leads to cracking of the spider spring. The evr has the ball and ramp system which is more reliable and requires less servicing. I have the evr slipper on my S4RS putting down 140hp at the wheel, and I've never had a bit of trouble.

I, personally, would buy an evr again if faced with the decision.