M821

[Speeddog]

So, front wheel locked relative to the bike, and the whole bike rolling forward on the front wheel?

I'm pretty sure the ABS does not compare front and rear wheel rotation, IMO that would introduce lots of mayhem.

[Curmudgeon]

I'm pretty sure the ABS does not compare front and rear wheel rotation, IMO that would introduce lots of mayhem.

Cars do, so who knows. Chips are small these days. 

IIRC 696/796/1100 EVO ABS figure gearing into the equation, so it "might" be more complex than you imagine. Car ECU's also retard the ignition when the ABS is working. No reason the Brembo couldn't too as the EFi ECU on these bikes is ABS-specific.

To get the skinny though, you might have to call Giuseppe in Bologna. 

[NAKID]

So, front wheel locked relative to the bike, and the whole bike rolling forward on the front wheel?

I'm pretty sure the ABS does not compare front and rear wheel rotation, IMO that would introduce lots of mayhem.

I wouldn't say rolling, more like pivoting. Front wheel stopped rolling, remained stationary on the asphalt. Rear of the bike came up, rear wheel still spinning.

[Speeddog]

I wouldn't say rolling, more like pivoting. Front wheel stopped rolling, remained stationary on the asphalt. Rear of the bike came up, rear wheel still spinning.

Yes, that was what I was thinking.

I'd say the bike was going slower than the threshold at which the ABS disconnects.

A bike going ~8mph and locking the front without skidding will rotate up to the point it's raised the CG about 2 feet.
That'd have the rear wheel 3-4 feet up.
I think skilled stunters would be the only folks that could pull that one off.

Cars do, so who knows. Chips are small these days. 

IIRC 696/796/1100 EVO ABS figure gearing into the equation, so it "might" be more complex than you imagine. Car ECU's also retard the ignition when the ABS is working. No reason the Brembo couldn't too as the EFi ECU on these bikes is ABS-specific.

To get the skinny though, you might have to call Giuseppe in Bologna. 

I'm pretty sure that with cars that are available to the general public not being able to stoppie or wheelie, nor tip over in a flat pavement stop.... that the ABS algorithms are a good bit different.

[NAKID]

So, breaking the bike in nicely with about 600 miles on it since I got it (bought a demo with 800 miles). Decided to see what I can get out of the tank commuting. I've been keeping the freeway speeds at about 75-80mph and somewhat reasonable on the surface streets. Total of about 30 mile each way commuting, ~22 of that is highway/toll roads. Fuel light came on at about 160 miles and average fuel economy sitting at 46.7mpg.

Not bad at all. This larger tank just got me an extra day between fuel stops.

[SpikeC]

 Rock on dude! Those are really good numbers! It bodes well for longer trips!

[NAKID]

Rock on dude! Those are really good numbers! It bodes well for longer trips!

Absolutely, though, when you open it up, economy goes way down.

[Aldoctore]

Here's another question for you:

Every promotional picture I see for the 821 shows the front turn signals mounted to the sides of the headlight like this:


However, mine, and every picture I've seen of the bike in a physical dealership has them mounted to the forks like this:


And then, here's the obligatory pictures of mine:




Any idea why there's a difference?

the one with signals in the head lights are European specifications the one with signals in the forks is USA specs

[NAKID]

So, After a little over 7000 miles and the rearsets are getting tore-up. I mean, seriously, I haven't even hit the first major service and this is the wear and tear from daily riding...
My boots are Oxtar TCS EVO-RX

[DarkMonster620]

Told you since the begining, http://cncracing.us/prodDetail.asp?ID=4109

[NAKID]

Told you since the begining, http://cncracing.us/prodDetail.asp?ID=4109

Maybe when the price drops out of orbit!

$1485 for the standard and an extra $200 for the touring?

[stopintime]

Aren't stock rearsets less expensive?

You could cut them down...

[NAKID]

Aren't stock rearsets less expensive?

You could cut them down...

It's not a matter of cutting them down. It's the overall placement that causes issues. I need the passenger pegs...

[duccarlos]

Are there any less expensive options out there?

[NAKID]

Are there any less expensive options out there?

The CNC rearsets are the only aftermarket option I've seen.