The Official Oz Monster Whining Crying and Pregnant Dogging thread.

[ungeheuer]

ahh censorship!

well done ungerhauer, what's the matter? worried someone might call you out for your heavy handed moderating (read, power crazed) style here?

Ungeheuer didn't reorganise all your make the beast with two backsing whining.  One of the owners and founders of this forum reorganised all your make the beast with two backsing whining because you continually wander in here and piss on the carpet. After being asked nicely to please abide by forum rules.  The Flounders have the right to assert what goes on in here and if you don't like the way they seek to run it, then make the beast with two backs off and start your own Internet forum.

Now, allow ME to escort you nicely out the door.

[ducpainter]

Thanks ... I know there are a few people that might feel better if they get things off their chest ... but I'm guessing that is not what you really want.

The number of OzMos (past or present) that I spoke to at the Concours is numbered in double figures ... some were regular posters, some not ... one I would consider part of the OzMo community even though they may never have posted. So I would say it was not just the so called trouble making minority.

A common concern was difficult to understand moderation - deleting and moving posts making things difficult to understand what the hell is going on (right or wrong) ... and I have brought this up with the mods via PM before. Surprise, surprise this gets seen as heavy-handedness particularly by those that were not privy to all the context. From personal experience I can attest that it makes it very difficult to defend the actions of the Mods.

Case in point:

Why was my post above moved from the Concours thread? ... It is pretty much a given that you are not allowed to mention the Forecast before an event so as not to be seen as a jinx if the weather turns foul. OK so you may think I was 'pregnant doging' about the weather but I don't think that warrants being the headline act in a new thread ... the Concourse thread is now missing that context.

My second post above was just acknowledgement of the the difficulties I had with receiving texts from various sources ... being able to see that dozens of people had read the thread but not posted. So I was effectively telling people I was receiving their messages even though I may not have responded to them all (many regulars on here know I am no good with the mobile phone).

My third post above was purely because Unge chose to make a political statement ... which at the time still didn't really help because I have no way of knowing who may or may not have been banned and/or suspended and/or withdrawn their participation from the forum by their own accord. I thought the thread was staying on subject until that point.

Now if you really want me to have a whinge ...




... you'll have to wait until another time.

Maybe because I didn't want to take the time to single out every post and I moved them 'en masse'.

I'm patient Mark. I know I'll get the opportunity to listen to your whinge. I know you won't disappoint.

...and for the record...I call bullshit on your explanations.

[ducpainter]

ahh censorship!

well done ungerhauer, what's the matter? worried someone might call you out for your heavy handed moderating (read, power crazed) style here?

Nope...

that would be me.

What of it? Nothing has been deleted...just moved around to avoid all you whiny pregnant doges from ruining every make the beast with two backsing thread.

Anyone that doesn't like it here is welcome to make the beast with two backsing leave and start their own forum.

I suggest you take me up on my offer.

The only reason you still have the Oz Monster forum is because of Steve. I lost my patience for this baby shit weeks ago.

Don't like it...too make the beast with two backsing bad.

[Betty]

...and for the record...I call bullshit on your explanations.

You can call it as you see it ... it is certainly not the only time I have been mis-understood. I'm used to being called a bit weird ... so it comes with the territory.

EDIT: I won't say I am offended or upset but I am a little disappointed. I may not be considered an adult ... and may be considered childish ... and I am most certainly a smart arse - but I'd have thought my postings and PMs suggest I'm man enough to not try and hide behind weasel (to be said smart arse) - if that was your interpretation.

If there is a debate to be had ... I tend to engage fully, or not at all.

[ungeheuer]

Why was my post above moved from the Concours thread? ... It is pretty much a given that you are not allowed to mention the Forecast before an event so as not to be seen as a jinx if the weather turns foul. OK so you may think I was 'pregnant doging' about the weather but I don't think that warrants being the headline act in a new thread ... the Concourse thread is now missing that context.

Whine.

My second post above was just acknowledgement of the the difficulties I had with receiving texts from various sources ... being able to see that dozens of people had read the thread but not posted. So I was effectively telling people I was receiving their messages even though I may not have responded to them all (many regulars on here know I am no good with the mobile phone).

Whine.

My third post above was purely because Unge chose to make a political statement ... which at the time still didn't really help because I have no way of knowing who may or may not have been banned and/or suspended and/or withdrawn their participation from the forum by their own accord. I thought the thread was staying on subject until that point.

Whine.

Now if you really want me to have a whinge ...




... you'll have to wait until another time.

And if you really want to see 'heavy handed' - just keep up the make the beast with two backsing whining.  Coz my patience is just about exhausted too.

But before Admin locks this place and throws away the keys, a whine of my own:
What really pisses me off is that - absolutely contrary to popular perception - ungeheuer has been advocating that this place be NOT nuked into oblivion by Admin.  I'm making a pest of myself in the ears of Admin..... trying to make the case that once the shit-stirrers get bored and go away, OzMo can be a place which abides by the rules accepted by the entire rest of the forum. 

But I'm fighting a losing battle. 

So go ahead, keep it up and paint ME as the bad guy.  I don't use this make the beast with two backsing unruly shit-hole so it'll be no loss to me if/when it does get blown the make the beast with two backs away.

The loss will belong to the folk who'd like to come here and behave like grown-ups.   And to them I apologise if I fail in my endeavours to save this place from the trash can.

Because then the tossers will have won.

A pity. 

[Betty]

Sorry Unge ... but your latest post is an example of the confusion.

And just to be clear a lot of that confusion is coming from people who have not been involved at all in this kerfuffle.

Dupcainter set this thread by saying:

Since it seems that there are so many complaints from a few that are offended by the enforcement of a few simple rules...

I decided to start this to consolidate all of your cry baby complaints so that all the good threads aren't sullied.

Whine on boys...I'll call you men when you start acting like them.

... and calling it a whining thread. I openly accepted that and responded as such ... and somehow that required further Moderator comment (yours re: Whine, whine, whine). That would be fine too until you told me to stop 'make the beast with two backsing whining' ... in a thread specifically set up for that purpose

Not a quiet word (PM perhaps if I have mis-interpreted, again) ... but a public dressing down. This is why people ('grown-ups' you called them) have addressed me in private about their fear of posting.

Anything else I am happy to discuss via PM.

[Betty]

... oh and if I am one of the 'shit stirrer' - please say so. If you want me to shut up - say so.

I will then try and stay out of it which will include no further defense of the actions of the Mods (publicly or otherwise).

[ungeheuer]

... and calling it a whining thread. I openly accepted that and responded as such ...

Yes, you did.

and somehow that required further Moderator comment (yours re: Whine, whine, whine).

You whined in the whining thread.  And then you whined some more  . 

And that I comment on your whining is of no great consequence.

That would be fine too until you told me to stop 'make the beast with two backsing whining' ... in a thread specifically set up for that purpose

Selective reading again Mark?  I suggested that you 'keep up the make the beast with two backsing whining' 

And if you really want to see 'heavy handed' - just keep up the make the beast with two backsing whining....

[ungeheuer]

... oh and if I am one of the 'shit stirrer' - please say so. If you want me to shut up - say so.

I will then try and stay out of it which will include no further defense of the actions of the Mods (publicly or otherwise).

I'm past caring Mark.

[Betty]

Yes, you did.
You whined in the whining thread.  And then you whined some more  . 

And that I comment on your whining is of no great consequence.
Selective reading again Mark?  I suggested that you 'keep up the make the beast with two backsing whining'   

Not selective reading at all ... just trying to understand two apparently conflicting views from the Mods.

[ungeheuer]

Not selective reading at all ... just trying to understand two apparently conflicting views from the Mods.

Read this.  Carefully:
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=107.0

And take a few days.

[ducpainter]

Read this.  Carefully:
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=107.0

And take a few days.

...as Mark thumps chest.

[gino]

Wow!Do we remember how all this started?I do.From one problem.Now its gone ! We can start fresh.Pretend that problem never even existed.Jump on the forum.Talk about our monsters .How it used to be ! While im here,anybody know how to turn the idle down on an s4r ? 

[ungeheuer]

gino, I admire your optimism.

But... you are thread jacking.  This place is for whinging 

Regarding your S4R idle... ask in here, you'll get a sensible answer in no time..
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?www;board=4

 

[gino]

Oky doky