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[duccarlos]

MM is a make the beast with two backsing dick!

[duccarlos]

Let me quantify my last statement. MM spent the whole race behind Jorghey, not one attack. Dani had the pace at the end to at least try to a move. MM fought back and bad them both lose time. make the beast with two backs you MM!

Notice that this would not make a difference in the championship. Jorghey would have fought tooth and nail for 2nd, but Dani had a chance to win and his "teammate" ruined it.

[duccarlos]

And poor Perturbed Joseph. He destroyed his bike, but I sure love to watch his race!

So my personal dream championship would have Dani finally winning, Iannone a close 2nd and whomever else is on the other Ducati in third.

[ducpainter]

,,,and once again the motogp feed freezes.

make the beast with two backs you Carmelo.

[thought]

$#@!$#@ 

But yes... I'm kinda shocked the MM didnt make a single move on JLo the whole race... like not even a nibble.  But the second that Dani got close he attacked like a pit bull.

[m9hundo]

Not one front tire was shown to JLo 

[Raux]

Soooo maybe rossi was right about mm

[ducpainter]

Soooo maybe rossi was right about mm

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2015/11/08/rossi-it-was-unbelievable/189602
He still believes so.

[Raux]

Ive read hundreds of comments on motogp social media pages...I saw 2 supporting lorenzo. This is one of those asterisk seasons imo.

[ducpainter]

Dorna and the FIM still have a PR nightmare to contain.

I'm still breaking their balls over the feed freezing.

It won't make any difference, but it's fun.

[kopfjäger]

Finally, I can catch up on some 'murder she wrote' tapes now.

[Triple J]

Great ride by JLo. I was worried that he'd play it conservative, but he didn't. He went out and set a brutal pace. Good on him! He deserves the championship as much as VR if he would have won.

Nice ride by Dani too. I think he had a win in him, but...

Couple things obvious to me:

1. Very nice ride by VR, but he didn't have the pace of the top 3. When he finally got into 4th the gap to Dani in 3rd was about 11 seconds. By race end the gap was over 15 seconds, despite VR having perfectly clear track. 4th was all he was going to get today most likely, regardless of start position. Not really a surprise honestly.

2. MM was blocking for JLo at the end. He had the pace to pass when JLo dropped into the 32s. Dani had pace to pass them too, and MM made it clear he wasn't going to let that happen without a massive fight. I think Dani just thought screw it...end of the season and a podium is better than a crash. Wouldn't change anything anyway.

3. Rossi is a sore loser. Regardless of #2...just shut up. You started this whole shit storm by being a sore loser at PI.

I still don't buy VR's conspiracy theory about PI. I think MM was just racing in PI. All bets were off after VR's accusations though, and then his actions during the race in Sepang sealed it. MM wasn't going to do anything to help VR, like pass JLo this race or let Dani do it easily.  It doesn't matter what we think...MM thinks VR hit his brake and caused the crash in Sepang. Right or wrong, that's his perspective and that's what matters. I don't think JLo was an active participant, rather an affected bystander.

Sad way to get through the last 2 races of what was a great season IMO.

Next season should be great though...can't wait to see how the Michelins work and affect the bikes/riders! Go Dani!!

[Raux]

There was a quick Italian rumor about Rossi going to WSBK. MotoGP would lose a lot of viewers and attendees. I think Rossi has 1 more year with yamaha, wonder if he could take their wsbk ride under that contract? With hayden and rossi in wsbk I certainly would prefer that over motogp after the joke ending to this season.

[duccarlos]

Great ride by JLo. I was worried that he'd play it conservative, but he didn't. He went out and set a brutal pace. Good on him! He deserves the championship as much as VR if he would have won.

Nice ride by Dani too. I think he had a win in him, but...

Couple things obvious to me:

1. Very nice ride by VR, but he didn't have the pace of the top 3. When he finally got into 4th the gap to Dani in 3rd was about 11 seconds. By race end the gap was over 15 seconds, despite VR having perfectly clear track. 4th was all he was going to get today most likely, regardless of start position. Not really a surprise honestly.

2. MM was blocking for JLo at the end. He had the pace to pass when JLo dropped into the 32s. Dani had pace to pass them too, and MM made it clear he wasn't going to let that happen without a massive fight. I think Dani just thought screw it...end of the season and a podium is better than a crash. Wouldn't change anything anyway.

3. Rossi is a sore loser. Regardless of #2...just shut up. You started this whole shit storm by being a sore loser at PI.

I still don't buy VR's conspiracy theory about PI. I think MM was just racing in PI. All bets were off after VR's accusations though, and then his actions during the race in Sepang sealed it. MM wasn't going to do anything to help VR, like pass JLo this race or let Dani do it easily.  It doesn't matter what we think...MM thinks VR hit his brake and caused the crash in Sepang. Right or wrong, that's his perspective and that's what matters. I don't think JLo was an active participant, rather an affected bystander.

Sad way to get through the last 2 races of what was a great season IMO.

Next season should be great though...can't wait to see how the Michelins work and affect the bikes/riders! Go Dani!!

Again we're on the same page except for one thing. I believe Rossi realized that he was never going to catch the top 3 and decided to settle for 4th. If he would have been anywhere close to the front, he might have fought for 3rd. I agree with everything else.

[ducpainter]

There was a quick Italian rumor about Rossi going to WSBK. MotoGP would lose a lot of viewers and attendees. I think Rossi has 1 more year with yamaha, wonder if he could take their wsbk ride under that contract? With hayden and rossi in wsbk I certainly would prefer that over motogp after the joke ending to this season.

Dorna and FIM would love that.

They own both series, and that scenario would calm the storm. Ain't gonna happen.

Rossi may be a sore loser, but he's not going to let this go. Next year will indeed be interesting, and if I was Marc I'd be watching my back.