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[ducpainter]

MM is an asshole. Someone from Honda should have a long conversation with him for what he did to Dani.  His own teammate.  

I thought Livio said the goal in Valencia was to have a Honda 1...2 finish.

They had that chance.

Just sayin' kids.

[rufus1138]

Mm got marching orders from hrc they're bent from losing the manufacturer title, positively furious at the thought of vr making an even 10 and that sits just fine with mm's thoughts on be so he drinks the koolaid and continues to worship at the altar of hrc

[rufus1138]

I thought Livio said the goal in Valencia was to have a Honda 1...2 finish.

They had that chance.

Just sayin' kids.

That was a decision that probably came with a caveat that vr could not be in position to keep the championship if pedrobot and mm moved to the front

[kopfjäger]

 

[m9hundo]

to add further fuel to the already month long bonfire what was with MM and the shades  ? He was hiding his eyes from being read much like stoners who wear habit hiders. Just an observation

[ducpainter]

to add further fuel to the already month long bonfire what was with MM and the shades  ? He was hiding his eyes from being read much like stoners who wear habit hiders. Just an observation

Gil...

are you saying Marc is a lying sack of shit?

[m9hundo]

well 

[rufus1138]

Lol I just read the hrc response and vr interview, I think they're becoming wary of the monster they've been poking with a stick ever since they lost the manufacturer title this year

[Triple J]

Wow, you guys are going crazy with theories! I don't think it was anything more that MM doing what he could to not help VR. I don't think he gives a crap about JLo or anyone else.

Rossi tried a game with the press for whatever reason, and he miscalculated MM's reaction...severely.

Hard to say next year. VR may want to mess with MM, but he has to catch him first. We'll have to see what kind of bike Yamaha and HRC put under them.

I've lost a bit of respect for both of them. Like I said...go Dani!

[Speeddog]

Must point out a couple things.

Some of you folks need to take off the tinfoil hats, or at least loosen 'em up a little. 

All the riders had just received a plainly worded lecture from Ezpeleta and Ippolito.
If you haven't read the transcript, you should.
Bad behavior would not be tolerated.

Also, there was obviously (to me, anyway) words that did not appear on the transcript, as all riders were unwilling to discuss Sepang Shenanigans immediately after the lecture.
I suspect that the off the record warning was more or less "If you make the beast with two backs this up, your nutsack will be on a stick."

Granted, MM's *usual* MO is to attack at the first opportunity.
In light of:
A) The lecture
B) His occasional flashes of logical thinking during a race
C) The scenario of MM putting a hard pass on JLo that ends up with JLo on the floor, and the WC handed to Rossi on a solid gold platter, *in* *Spain*, is so obviously a collossally bad plan.
I don't find it at all odd that MM didn't hammer on him nonstop.

The Hondas suffered more than the Yamahas as the temperature increased, JLo qualified ~0.5 seconds ahead of #2 qualifier MM.
Sunday was hotter than Saturday.

If this race had played out exactly like this, in the middle of the season, there would be no talk of MM and Pedro aiding JLo.
"They just didn't have the pace".

[Speeddog]

Enlightening reading:
https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/11/09/2015_valencia_sunday_motogp_round_up_how.html

[Triple J]

If this race had played out exactly like this, in the middle of the season, there would be no talk of MM and Pedro aiding JLo.
"They just didn't have the pace".

No one is saying Pedro helped JLo. Hell, he was faster than both MM and JLo from lap 21 until he attempted the pass on MM.

There's also a big difference between MM helping JLo, and him doing what he could to not help VR. I've never implies or believe that MM wants to help JLo.

As usual...good article by Emmett. Like he said, we'll never know for sure.

[ducpainter]

<snip>
All the riders had just received a plainly worded lecture from Ezpeleta and Ippolito.
If you haven't read the transcript, you should.
Bad behavior would not be tolerated.

<snip
I don't find it at all odd that MM didn't hammer on him nonstop.

You got a link to that transcript?

I don't find it odd that he didn't hammer on him all race long. I do find it odd that he never showed him a wheel lecture or not.

[GK]

Italians helping Italians, Spaniards helping Spaniards, HECK, who would have thought that possible???

Jorge rode a cracker of a race to deny Rossi the dream narrative. And so it goes...

Racing is full of heartbreak!

Those who worship at the altar of Rossi may forever claim that Rossi was denied the championship.

I reckon Jorge deserved it.

No altar at my house.

[Cher]

Enlightening reading:
https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/11/09/2015_valencia_sunday_motogp_round_up_how.html

David Emmett does bring up the point, it seems to me, that is totally obvious; can Rossi remain in the sport?  (I'm a Rossi fan, BTW)

The histrionics between VR and MM, VR and J'Lo, VR and Carmelo Ezpeleta of DORNA, VR and the FIM have wrecked what was one of the best MotoGP seasons in recent memory.  But all of those same people will be around next season so can we then expect more of the same inane NASCAR-style *drama* ?  

Rossi is not bigger than the sport, and there's a finite limit to old age and treachery.