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Quote from: Speeddog on November 11, 2015, 06:12:14 PM
Factory Honda, Yamaha, Ducati using 2016 electronics.
Suzuki and satellites on 2015 electronics.
https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/11/11/2015_valencia_post_race_day_2_round_up_n.html
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To an extent, HRC were saved by the revelation that Casey Stoner is to join Ducati as a test rider for 2016. Normally, the loss of their superstar test rider would be a PR body blow for Honda, but now, with the media spotlight still on Valentino Rossi's allegations that Marc Márquez had helped Jorge Lorenzo, and neither Honda nor Yamaha happy about the situation, they were happy with the distraction. The media spotlight is easy to entice towards pastures new, and Casey Stoner coming back to Ducati is exactly the kind of story the media love. Even Ducati helped play their part, Ducati Sporting Director Paolo Ciabatti coming to the media center to issue such a vague and non-specific denial that he might just as well have admitted it. In their press conference, Honda also spoke about it as if it had already happened, but without officially confirming it. After weeks of three names hogging the limelight, it was nice to talk about something else for a change.
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Great news.
They gotta give him a wildcard for the Island.
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Quote from: Speeddog on November 11, 2015, 06:24:36 PM
Agreed
Testing results is looking forward.
However i do like the distraction.
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For 2 days we got a glimpse of the future without the craziness of the last few weeks. Good couple of days if you're a Ducati fan. Did anyone notice Baz? He's right there with Petrux.
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Quote from: Speeddog on November 11, 2015, 04:34:18 PM
I don't think the Suzukis were running the 2016 electronics.
Nor did they debut heir seamless gearbox
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Re: Valencia MotoGP Test
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Suzuki didnt try the 2016 ECU because it seems that it's going to be upgrade for them compared to the ECU they are using now:
"For the Suzukis, that was not such a problem. The new electronics were likely to be an improvement on their own electronics, both Maverick Viñales and Aleix Espargaro said, so missing out now was not such a problem."
https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/11/11/2015_valencia_post_race_day_2_round_up_n.html
I'm surprised that a factory effort would concede that the spec ECU was superior to their own setup. But I sort of agree with their thinking of not testing the ECU... I mean, what they need to be competitive isn't going to be changed too much with electronics. I see the electronics as the final honing of the blade vs what they need now.
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Re: Valencia MotoGP Test
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Quote from: Speeddog on November 11, 2015, 06:12:14 PM
Factory Honda, Yamaha, Ducati using 2016 electronics.
Suzuki and satellites on 2015 electronics.
https://motomatters.com/analysis/2015/11/11/2015_valencia_post_race_day_2_round_up_n.html
so, they holding out? not showing all the nuts?
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I think Suzuki is doing the smart thing.
The Scientific Method, change one thing at a time, that way you have a decent chance of figuring out WTF is going on.
Look at Honda.
New electronics, new motor, new chassis, new tires.
Pedrosa basically says they can't tell which end is up.
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you're right, but, since Ducati was already using the spec ECU . . .
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Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 07:34:34 AM
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Quote from: ducpainter on November 11, 2015, 06:33:59 PM
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My confusion was in what part of the article was the denial.
Yes, agreed.
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Quote from: DarkMonster620 on November 12, 2015, 10:37:08 AM
you're right, but, since Ducati was already using the spec ECU . . .
I'm not sure where you're going....
AFAIK, Suzuki was using the open class software & ECU in 2015.
I may be wrong.
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Quote from: Speeddog on November 12, 2015, 10:50:49 AM
I'm not sure where you're going....
AFAIK, Suzuki was using the open class software & ECU in 2015.
I may be wrong.
since Ducati had being using the spec ECU this year . . I thought they could be better in this standings . . . have a little advantage . . .
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Re: Valencia MotoGP Test
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Quote from: DarkMonster620 on November 12, 2015, 10:57:08 AM
since Ducati had being using the spec ECU this year . . I thought they could be better in this standings . . . have a little advantage . . .
They only used the ECU in the open bikes. Both factory and Pramac used their own ECU, which means that the GP15s have not used them. Now, I'm sure that all the 2016 bikes have been developed using the spec ECU, so the test riders are used to it by now, but the regular riders have to get used to not being able to code around every detail. They're going to need to learn how to actually race a bike and not a computer.
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