exhaust options

[Dockstrada]

so if I get termis, should I go full system or slipons? I am concerned if I get pulled over and I have no cat convertor I will be in the sh*t in a big way... any thoughts? Can you get a hi-flow cat? I had these on my cars but not too sure about bikes?
cheers

I have a straight  race system on mine and  have been stopped many times for random Breath testing, the only comment I have had about my monster is   

"nice bike you have there, can you count 2 ten for me please sir "

I seems like  they think all ducati’s are noisy just like a Harley's it doesn’t seem 2  worry them 2 much. many a times I have been tailed by them with no problems

IMO I don’t think the Monster fits the rat bag unlicensed stereo types they look for and doesn’t attract 2 much attention

[loony888]

the thing is, cats have been on cars for years, and the roadside checks look for them cause they know they're supposed to be there and they're easy to see. on bikes however, cats have been mandatory in oz for only the last few years, my 03 S4R had one fitted but because it wasn't mandatory at the time i removed it and haven't had a problem since. "most" coppers and even the transport dept people don't know exactly when it became compulsory to have them fitted, nor do they really know what they're looking for. on monsters it's big and ugly and easy to see, on most bikes it's in the collector or muffler assembly and not easy to spot, so unless you are really unlucky and get a bike nut/epa nazi in one you should be fine.
as to the "unleaded fuel only" farce in NSW, i got done in ballina a few years ago and it cost me $160 and i nearly had to ride back there with a new sticker in place.


paul.

[bazz20]

Yeah, I'm getting closer to a decision, if someone could lend me a bike for a couple of weeks I would probably get it done, can you "peer group" that for me?  - Did you say the coaters were in Coburg Spider?

In regard to the original post, I had a bit of a Google and found this article: http://www.smh.com.au/news/News/Scooting-stars/2005/06/02/1117568351566.html

Specifically the bit that says..."There is one area Australian rules don't cover - exhaust emissions - and the federal Department of Transport and Regional Services seems to be in no hurry to change that."

Looking between the lines of the Australian Design Rules's, there are only emissions laws for Heavy and Light vehicles. Motorcycles are not covered in the definition of either of these categories. Might I just add, this is all my own interpretation (usual disclaimer).

Having said that, This is a brief breakdown of the Heavy and Light vehicles ADR rules and how they relate to 2 wheeled vehicles, have a look at what is applicable to LC category vehicles (what we ride).

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/motor/design/files/ADR_Applicability_Summary-L-Group_July_2008.pdfSo,

So in short, I don't think we have to have them, the manufacturers just stick them on to be nice to the environment, and I assume they have to have them in Europe. I don't think you will have any issues kursed  [moto] Maybe we can get Bazz to test it out in Tassie for us 

- and as I said earlier, this is just my interpretation of it  I am no expert in the field.

i cant speek for other sates but last year there was a big crack down here mainly bike gangs , but its not the cops its the transport inspectors  , the police are not trained in opperating a noise meter or up with adr laws but the laws here do state and are enfoced that if your car, bike came out with a cat it must not be removed , so under this new anti hoon laws if the police think its to noisey they they put a canary on and then you have to go to a transport  inspection  station so just keep every thing in case you get pulled over 

[kursed]

fark it - full system then

[loony888]

fark it - full system then

that's the spirit!


paul.

[kursed]

I took it for its first solid thrash today through the nasho and up to mac pass, absolutely stellar. I love the handling of this bike, and the torque kept the R6 and the buell I was with on a tight leash Def. needs pipes though. I keep hitting the bloody rev limiter, coming from an R6, I am used to winding it out to 15000rpm through each gear... oops. Could do with a bigger tank too, 150kms before reserve light comes on? gimme a break.....

[Ita]

Could do with a bigger tank too, 150kms before reserve light comes on? gimme a break.....

PCIII custom map for each cylinder and make that 220km before light.....

Ita

[kursed]

come again? little bit more info if you perlease sir...

[tricolore]

What u ride kursed?

[bazz20]

in normal driving kursed im getting  240 kays be fore light comes on but i can only get that with 98 ron fuel if you ride on the rev limiter you wont get much , what you need to learn is yous your torque on the s2r  you maximum torque at 6 grand so reving any higher is a waste of time just change gear then youll see what the monster can really do

[Spider]

in normal driving kursed im getting  240 kays be fore light comes on but i can only get that with 98 ron fuel if you ride on the rev limiter you wont get much , what you need to learn is yous your torque on the s2r  you maximum torque at 6 grand so reving any higher is a waste of time just change gear then youll see what the monster can really do

but boy can you have fun getting it to 6,000!

Bazz, what happens to your's if you put 92/95 octane in it?

[kursed]

i'm riding an s2r 1000. Maybe my fuel consumption is different to the other monsters... I am sure some of the smaller capacity monsters are better on fuel economy.

I took some pics of her this morn finally, i'll post them up shortly. Gave her a super clean too. Those bloody white wheels though... OMG! Impossible to keep clean for more than 10 mins.... at the end of each ride they are covered with black grease from the chain. I cleaned the hell out of the chain and oiled it oh so lightly but it still flicks gunk onto it. I hit it with this carnuba wax cleaner and it seems to wipe off much easier now each time with the wax base on the rims, but man am I going through the rags... might have to clean out the gf's closet soon too for some more ahhaha

[bazz20]

but boy can you have fun getting it to 6,000!

Bazz, what happens to your's if you put 92/95 octane in it?

hi spider on normal unleaded 91 it surges and runs to lean - pre detination , 95 runs ok but only 190 kays to a tank , 98 ron luvs the stuff fuel economy up to 240 befor light comes on no surges ,front wheel is easier to get up , torque is better, thats  probley why it says 96 or better in the manual ive also done a little trick to the computer to boost torque , ever wondered why you have more power when bike is cold simple the computer runs the bike ritcher, when bikes warms up they run leener, well we all know that well running a higher octane fuel will burn cleaner ( if the compression ratio is right ) so the o2 sensor will read this and richern the mixture more so you get more power , now you can even richern a bit more by by tricking the computer into think that the air its breathing on is colder than what it really is and the easyest way to do that is run a littel chip which has a higher resistance than the normal air temp sensor  so the difference between the air temp sensor and o2 sensor is mutch more , so the computter think its very cold and richerns the mix evern more more power and a lot  more toque  cheers bazz

[Spider]

yeah Bazz, thats what the 992ds engine needs - more torque! 

least your front tyre won't need replacing!

Kursed - if the full is available - go for it!

[bazz20]

well its wether you want torque or horse power , if horse power the go ,go with full system and ecu if you want torque just core yuor cans and leave the cat , those around here that have full system complained about loosing torque , just somthing to think about , thats why i bought an s2r and not s4r  for the torque