HID H3 kit wireing help into an Acerbis Cyclops

[michalik_piotr]

Nightrider, thanks for dropping tons of good knowledge on me.

Maybe a dumb question, I know how a relay works now but what is its purpose?

The way I had it wired up was pretty simple....the hot off the ballast went to the hot from the high beam and i grounded the neg off the ballast to the neg on the battery.

[knightrider]

a relay is basically like a switch, but one that is activated remotely. so instead of running large wire from the battery, to a large switch that is rated for the high amperage, then to the load. you can run small wires to a small switch and allow that to activate the relay instead.

[CDawg]

yea but what are we talking about running in series or parallel? the low beam is separate from the high beam, the headlight connector has 3 wires, one is for the low beam, one is for the high beam, and the 3rd is a ground...

Just trying to eliminate the easy possibilities and not take anything for granted...you never know how someone may have modded it.

Good to know the HIDs draws high intital amps.

[michalik_piotr]

Nightrider, ok.....so the reason to use a relay is so i can run the same size wires b/c you suspect i'm blowing that fuse do to the small wires?  Or, the other alternative then if i did not want to use the relay would be to run thicker wire?  if i got that right, then i'll look for a relay. 

[knightrider]

well small wires wont make fuses blow, it will make the wire heat up and possibly catch fire. i dont think that is the issue, i think your hid is pulling more amps than the fuse can handle, on my bike its a 15 amp fuse for the hi and low beam.  one thing you could also try is putting a 20 amp fuse inplace of the the 15, you had mentioned that the fuse blows 5 to 10 seconds after you turn on the high beam, it could be that your light is drawing close to 15 amps at startup.  most automotive fuses can handle more than the rated amperage for a brief moment, but will blow after a couple seconds, this is ussually called a slow blow fuse.

[michalik_piotr]

So, a relay would somehow make that initial higher amp draw more gentle?  I'm just trying to figure out if installing a relay will fix my prob before I go to the work of doing it. 

The fuse that blows is the 7.5 one.... I don't have the bike in front of me but if I remember right its the third one down.....30 is in top, then something else then the 7.5.  I'll verify that once I get home.

[knightrider]

i think your problem is your small fuse, i guess on whatever year/model your bike is differs from mine.  you could trya larger fuse, but i would recommend just doing the relay because like i said before, overloading the wiring could cause a fire, not something you want.

wiring in a relay will take the high amperage load off of the stock monster wiring, and pull the amperage straight from the battery, heres how it should be wired

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[michalik_piotr]

nightrider, thanks again...u're being very helpful and patient with my retarded a$$ on this one.
so i looked and the fuse that blows is not the 15a headlight one but the 7.5 tail/turn sig/pilot one.
that make any diff?  or should i just go ahead with your relay suggestion?  thanks again in advance.

[He Man]

nightrider, thanks again...u're being very helpful and patient with my retarded a$$ on this one.
so i looked and the fuse that blows is not the 15a headlight one but the 7.5 tail/turn sig/pilot one.
that make any diff?  or should i just go ahead with your relay suggestion?  thanks again in advance.

If your 7.5 fuse blows, but your headlight doenst, that means your ballast is still receiving power. but it wont turn on?

Connect the wires directly to the battery and see if it turns on. I doubt it since your headlight fuse didnt blow. Im hoping you didnt connect your blinker wires to the ballast since they are very close the OEM headlight wire.

and for what its worth, it would be thousands of times easier if you posted a pic.

[michalik_piotr]

i know i got to work on the pics but its really self explanatory....umm, ya, haha....
The bulb lights up, then blows a fuse 10 sec later

[knightrider]

does the light stay on when the fuse blows?  where is your ground wire connected? 

[michalik_piotr]

No, hid bulb does not stay on after fuse blows.  had the ground connected to the frame then tried the neg on the batt.