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June 13, 2016, 01:41:10 AM Last Edit: June 13, 2016, 01:49:13 AM by koko64
 Looking at a 400 Monster for my kids. Here's a couple I'm checking out.





98 M400 and 2001 M400, similar kms (29000), both carbed and within 500 bucks of each other. The later version has the 25mm front axel and forks, 3 phase alternator, later cases and later styling with the 900 type slave cylinder actuation of the clutch. Pros and cons of the respective models?
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ducpainter

#1
June 13, 2016, 03:30:23 AM
If the earlier bike has the slave in the r/h cover, like an early 750, I'd go with the later bike.

Otherwise we had no exposure to the 400 motors on this side.
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koko64

#2
June 13, 2016, 04:26:33 AM
The later one has the three phase cases and slave on the LHS like the later 600/750s. ðŸ'
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ducpainter

#3
June 13, 2016, 04:36:54 AM
I'd go with the later bike for those two reasons alone.
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koko64

#4
June 13, 2016, 04:48:18 AM
I think they also might be the stronger cases Eric has mentioned.
Throw in a big axel front end, 43mm forks and lighter wheels (a little) and it would be the pick.
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ducpainter

#5
June 13, 2016, 04:58:00 AM
Quote from: koko64 on June 13, 2016, 04:48:18 AM
I think they also might be the stronger cases Eric has mentioned.
Throw in a big axel front end, 43mm forks and lighter wheels (a little) and it would be the pick.
I believe you're right, but I seriously doubt the cases would be an issue as a 400. They usually didn't become a problem until you leaned on a 750.
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koko64

#6
June 13, 2016, 05:05:32 AM
I would fit a 900 motor in time. I like the 900 style clutch actuation better too. It is in much better shape than the 98 model. The 98 looks quite neglected in comparison. I do like the older style better as do my kids. Well see how well I can haggle.
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Howie

#7
June 13, 2016, 05:32:50 AM
Aesthetically, the older one IMO.  Practically, well, gotta agree with Nate.  I wonder what a built 400 would be like.

ducpainter

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June 13, 2016, 07:35:56 AM
Quote from: howie on June 13, 2016, 05:32:50 AM
<snip> I wonder what a built 400 would be like.
Still slow. ;D
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Nekkid Tim

#9
June 13, 2016, 07:41:00 AM
Well, they're both yellow, so obviously either one would be at faster than *at least* a red 600 or 620 Monster, and *probably* ANY red Monster smaller than a 900.
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koko64

#10
June 13, 2016, 07:49:22 AM
 All 30-40hp of it. 8)

Safety yellow.  :D
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koko64

#11
June 13, 2016, 07:53:51 AM Last Edit: June 13, 2016, 08:15:07 AM by koko64
Quote from: ducpainter on June 13, 2016, 07:35:56 AM
Still slow. ;D

Yup. Im sure slow as a wet week.  [laugh] I'll keep it stock while I build a 900 motor. It will be at least two years untill they can ride a big bore.
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Speeddog

#12
June 13, 2016, 09:44:38 AM
My vote is for the newer one.

It should have the 12mm engine mounts as well.
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DarkMonster620

#13
June 13, 2016, 10:30:19 AM
Newer one . . .
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#14
June 14, 2016, 03:42:18 AM
Newer for sure! ðŸ'ðŸ»ðŸ'ðŸ»
2001 was a good year for Monsters! 😉
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