Ducati SuperSport 936

[koko64]

Yeah they have the Scrambler for that. I guess young people are the future and my kids would dig that whole scene. Except mine will ride and not be pillion. 
Maybe older guys that used to ride superbikes but wanna be sensible and dont see themselves as part of the cruiser or ADV set? What the..
And yet I dont want one.
I  gave up on understanding Ducatis marketing logic a long time ago. If the bike  was 916 beautiful it would sell like hotcakes. Is it me or are the bikes looking more Teutonic and less Latin? I just see more Audi/Beemer and less Ferrari or Lambo. If so then thats a mistake.

[ducpainter]

Its a city bike. It should be less expensive than the race bike, and you don't need 150+ HP for the twisties or just splitting lanes, that's just insane. It would be an awesome bike on Hwy 1 or any number of other coastal zone roads on the west coast.
It's more than enough bike for public roads, and a guy should be able to make it into a pretty decent track day bike.

Obviously it's not the bike to take racing.

I think you might misunderstand.

They made the bike too much for what it needs to be. The biggest thing it doesn't need is a 4V 936cc engine. Way too much power for what you just described.

[DarkMonster620]

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They made the bike too much for what it needs to be. The biggest thing it doesn't need is a 4V 936cc engine. Way too much power for what you just described.

exactly what I mean, either water cooler 2V or air cooled 2V . . . Ducati, just had to look in their closet to find the water cooled 2V from ST2 or am I mistaken . . .

Today's market "demands" ABS/DTC, changing dash, many power modes . . . Just give me a damm bike with an engine with enough power and gobbles of torque for it to be fun in the city and the track . . . OK, ABS is mandatory in many countries, so, at least we know we can disable them on every key on . . .

[MendoDave]

Well I have to admit that the Honda Super Hawk had a 996cc twin that was rated at 100 HP or something, and it was sometimes more than I needed. I was just able to use All of the power on it which was dangerous. It would easily break my self imposed 100 MPH speed limit in seemingly just a few seconds.

That is why I sold it and got the 750 Monster, because I knew that sooner or later there was going to be a tree, or a rock, or a deer, or some other thing getting in the way while I was breaking the speed limit by a goodly amount.

So I think you two might be right. I stand corrected.

[koko64]

If they consulted me I would have told them to build an air/oil cooled 1200cc desmodue making 100hp and 80ft/lbs with peak torque from 3000 rpm and styled with beautiful curved full fairings. ABS and DTC of course with DP touring and sport kits available.
See the mistakes they make when they dont consult me!

[the_Journeyman]

I see a lot of things.

They say something along the lines of "making sport light."  They didn't.  It's noticeably heavier than a lot of past SS, even my 900SS.  IMO if you want this market, give me a simple and light bike 2V (air or liquid cooled - air preferred) mill and some top notch handling.

JM

[koko64]

Clearly we're dinosaurs.

[DarkMonster620]

Speak for yourself . . .

[NAKID]

I see a lot of things.

They say something along the lines of "making sport light."  They didn't.  It's noticeably heavier than a lot of past SS, even my 900SS.  IMO if you want this market, give me a simple and light bike 2V (air or liquid cooled - air preferred) mill and some top notch handling.

JM

While I agree with you that 462lbs wet is not "light", a 1998 90SS/CR is listed at 188kg dry, this new SS is 184 dry, 210 wet.

[the_Journeyman]

Maybe I got the wrong specs.  Either way it felt super light compared to my M750, I guess from geometry and such.  Either way, if they want sport light, make it light.  The 899 was was lighter.

JM

[kopfjäger]

463lbs wet.

[the_Journeyman]

Wow!  According to the 'net, my M750 was a lot lighter wet I've never put it on a scale.  Net stats for what they are and all.  The heavier SS felt lighter.  Maybe I just need to go ride one of these new SS bikes and see what it feels like.

JM

[Speeddog]

I recently got a good scale so that I can weigh one end of a bike at a time.
M695, M750, S2R800 are all in the vicinity of 400 lb wet, ready to ride.
Not necessarily a full tank, and no significant weight reductions other than aftermarket cans.

[kopfjäger]

Just to be clear that 463 is the new ss.

[MendoDave]

I noticed there is no place to cook a foil wrapped Burrito on the engine like on other bikes.