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SOLVED - M696 2009 Light Relay Error

Started by fingerpuk, July 31, 2016, 05:27:25 AM

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fingerpuk

July 31, 2016, 05:27:25 AM Last Edit: August 21, 2016, 10:43:53 AM by fingerpuk
SOLVED. Was the light relay.

Hello.

My lights jut stopped working, and the error shows as being the Lights relay. I've googled but all the threads I find don't end, so I'm left with no answers. I need this bike working for the next month so I have to get on this, and as I just bought a house I have zero funds to pay for the Ducati shop to fix it.

I'm wondering if it could just be the bulb? Would that cause the error?

If it's a relay, does anyone have a link to a workshop manual or Youtube vid (I have searched) showing where it is, the part number I need.

Or do I need to accept that I have no lights for the next two weeks and ride in the daylight only? I'm at the in-laws until we move in on the 10th August, so I have no tools or garage to do any work in.

I can go buy new basic tools, but I'll be working outside. Everything comes together to cause the perfect storm of crap! :)

Thanks.

ducpainter

#1
July 31, 2016, 07:24:57 AM
Did you check the 15 amp fuse?
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fingerpuk

#2
July 31, 2016, 07:43:51 AM
Yep, was hoping it was that but they are all fine. Cleaned the contacts just in case.

ducpainter

#3
July 31, 2016, 07:47:47 AM Last Edit: July 31, 2016, 08:47:53 AM by ducpainter
Relay part# is 541.4.010.1A. It is the same as the injection relay. I believe they're under the tank near the battery.

If you can get to them you could swap them to see if the lights work.

eta...do you have no lights at all, or just no headlight?
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fingerpuk

#4
July 31, 2016, 10:15:03 AM
Thanks. No headlight, unless I pull the flash/pass switch.

ducpainter

#5
July 31, 2016, 10:18:51 AM Last Edit: July 31, 2016, 10:54:32 AM by ducpainter
Quote from: fingerpuk on July 31, 2016, 10:15:03 AM
Thanks. No headlight, unless I pull the flash/pass switch.
So when you pull the flash switch the high beam comes on?

Will the lamp work just on high beam, or only when you play with that switch??

eta...if the headlamp comes on at all, it's not a bad relay or fuse. It's either a bulb or switch issue.
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fingerpuk

#6
July 31, 2016, 10:58:32 AM
The main lamp (top) stays off, the passing light (bottom) comes on with the switch.

Switching to solid main beam does nothing at all.

Howie

#7
July 31, 2016, 11:07:29 AM
You can match that relay at any decent auto parts store.  If you want to check the relay, 12 volts to terminal 30, ground to 86.  Apply 12V to 85 and power should be available at 87.  Or just buy a relay, cheap enough to have a spare.

ducpainter

#8
July 31, 2016, 11:17:39 AM
Quote from: howie on July 31, 2016, 11:07:29 AM
You can match that relay at any decent auto parts store.  If you want to check the relay, 12 volts to terminal 30, ground to 86.  Apply 12V to 85 and power should be available at 87.  Or just buy a relay, cheap enough to have a spare.
If power for the lamp comes from the relay, how can the relay be faulty if the lamp will light?
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 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
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    is even more amazing than yours."
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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DarkMonster620

#9
July 31, 2016, 11:47:14 AM
I am leaning somehow to a blown low beam . . .he has hi beam, no low beam . . . as easy as taking the headlamp down and replacing the bulb . . . from what I've read
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ducpainter

#10
July 31, 2016, 11:50:18 AM
Quote from: DarkMonster620 on July 31, 2016, 11:47:14 AM
I am leaning somehow to a blown low beam . . .he has hi beam, no low beam . . . as easy as taking the headlamp down and replacing the bulb . . . from what I've read
He only has high beam in flash to pass.

I think he has a switch issue with the dimmer switch.
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Howie

#11
July 31, 2016, 11:54:39 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on July 31, 2016, 11:17:39 AM
If power for the lamp comes from the relay, how can the relay be faulty if the lamp will light?

Pass position bypasses the relay.  If high beam comes on with the switch and low does not then it is probably the bulb or switch.

ducpainter

#12
July 31, 2016, 12:10:22 PM
Quote from: howie on July 31, 2016, 11:54:39 AM
Pass position bypasses the relay.  If high beam comes on with the switch and low does not then it is probably the bulb or switch.
I must be reading the diagram incorrectly.

The way I see it is the flash to pass bypasses the dimmer. The power for both comes off the same terminal of the relay from what I see.
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 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


fingerpuk

#13
July 31, 2016, 12:50:39 PM
Just to be clear, the high only comes on with the trigger, not with the sliding main switch that keeps main on all the time.

Howie

#14
July 31, 2016, 09:41:44 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on July 31, 2016, 12:10:22 PM
I must be reading the diagram incorrectly.

The way I see it is the flash to pass bypasses the dimmer. The power for both comes off the same terminal of the relay from what I see.

Nope, you got it right, I got it wrong.  Sorry fingerpuk.  When checking the bulb also look at the connector and follow back to where it connects to the main harness.
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