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« on: September 17, 2016, 12:12:29 PM »

Evening everybody.

I´m going to build a HYM1100 motor for my track day hybrid (749R frame, HYM1100 motor) and among other things I´d like to use Carillo rods. As always with american components, if you can source them in the US and get them home without the customs authorities paying too much attention there´s a saving there.

However, I have not managed to getananswer frpm Carillo, or a few of the dealers I´ve mailed. Anyone out there who can tell me how  much a pair of Carillo rods cost in the US? Part number acc. to their catalogue is DU-906-1>-8M5118S?

If you could also name a good dealer I could contact, I´d appreciate that very much. The plan would be to order and pay from here, and have them delivered to people I know in the US for further transport.

Any advice much appreciated !     
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2016, 12:41:00 PM »

I can call them on Monday.
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2016, 01:14:25 PM »

I bought new bolts this year from Performance Unlimited in England and was very pleased with the communication, including a long talk about stretch, torque and testing. I could have saved money going through US contacts, but didn't have the time and thought it was right to buy from the people who were helpful and had my bolts in stock.

Your US purchase plan will be less expensive, but if it doesn't work as intended - you have a good back up. ...and there's Kämna of course. Dutch Biggelaar is also known to be helpful and they too know their Carrillo stuff.

My rods (LOUD knock on wood) are 90,000 km old. Everything around them have been broken and/or replaced, but the rods have been fine. 

I look forward to follow your build thread (?), seeing you next year and wave when I pass you  cheeky
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2016, 01:28:25 PM »

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Will be good to watch, including the build  waytogo Grin.
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2016, 01:38:40 PM »

Evening again.
Speeddog: That would be great, if it's not too much of a hassle. I'm just trying to establish the playing field.

Stopintime: You know you should not speed in the pits :-)
Hope those forks still work well.
As for the Carillos: I sent a mail to your UK contacts as well, and had a reply within a few hours. Nothing from US, nothing from the Swedish dealers a . So you see which way I'm leaning, unless a US deal is really too good to resist.

Build thread: OK even if not a Monster ... ?
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2016, 01:40:59 PM »

Yes for sure. waytogo.
I want to see how much power you get from the Hyper motor.
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2016, 01:45:55 PM »

Besides Carillos, what parts are you planning for the motor? Cams, higher compression, porting, lighter internals? Is it an Evo1100?
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2016, 01:58:37 PM »

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Hope those forks still work well.
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They really do - fantastically stable - thank you (other than the 'downside' that I now need a slight spring upgrade to match the fork)

Buying from the UK will mean one import tax for you - I paid the UK VAT plus the Norwegian tax since they wouldn't deduct their local VAT (they can, but probably don't know how or couldn't be bothered).

I wish I could use a HM engine in my bike - good engines, maybe only need hotter cams and a Dyno job.
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2016, 06:47:53 PM »

ive asked mark@ducshop about carillo rods and he told me the stock rods on a DS are plenty strong enough. he advised me to buy ARP rod bolts, like $80, for my stock rods. he said they've raced their bike with DS engine on stock rods with ARP bolts and have never had a failure. that's $800 to spend elsewhere. just food for thought.
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2016, 10:07:05 PM »

ive asked mark@ducshop about carillo rods and he told me the stock rods on a DS are plenty strong enough. he advised me to buy ARP rod bolts, like $80, for my stock rods. he said they've raced their bike with DS engine on stock rods with ARP bolts and have never had a failure. that's $800 to spend elsewhere. just food for thought.

Thanks for the info, it's certainly worth thinking about. I'll check with Ducshop directly, I suppose.
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2016, 03:25:42 AM »

Any difference in the weight of the rods?
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2016, 09:25:46 AM »

Any difference in the weight of the rods?

Sorry I was off. Ben fox has the rods for $675 for a pair.

Here's a link from his site with rod weights.

http://www.foxperformanceengines.com/carrillo.html
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2016, 09:44:03 AM »

Saved that link .
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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2016, 12:30:46 PM »

Sorry I was off. Ben fox has the rods for $675 for a pair.

Here's a link from his site with rod weights.

http://www.foxperformanceengines.com/carrillo.html
Thank you very much, very interesting. I can add a bit of info:

Stock Duc 2V (with bearing shells, don´t know why I didn´t take them out): 523 g

Autoverdi (no bearings): 398 g.

The Autoverdis turned out to be pretty much a one-off job for my tuned ST2 engine, intended for my ST2-based track day bike project, which gone from hybernating to dead. However, the motor is complete, and I may have found a use for that motor. If it materializes you´ll know  Wink.   
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2016, 06:11:52 AM »

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Any progress?
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