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ducpainter

#75
October 22, 2016, 12:09:01 PM
It always amazes me how different recommended break in procedures can be.
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 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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Monsterlover

#76
October 22, 2016, 12:11:27 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on October 22, 2016, 12:09:01 PM
It always amazes me how different recommended break in procedures can be.

What are you used to?
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

ducpainter

#77
October 22, 2016, 12:22:46 PM
Depends what the bike will be used for, and how much has been 'rebuilt'.

If the bottom end hasn't been touched, all you need to do is seat rings, and that happens pretty quick. A couple of heat cycles and then plenty of throttle with moderate rpms.

I don't believe in partial throttle for ring seating.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


Monsterlover

#78
October 22, 2016, 12:24:16 PM
I've always been a proponent of vary the load
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

ducpainter

#79
October 22, 2016, 12:36:05 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on October 22, 2016, 12:24:16 PM
I've always been a proponent of vary the load
I'd agree.

I know Eric uses multiple heat cycles, and then just runs it.

Maybe it doesn't matter. ;D

"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


Monsterlover

#80
October 22, 2016, 12:50:41 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on October 22, 2016, 12:36:05 PM
I'd agree.

I know Eric uses multiple heat cycles, and then just runs it.

Maybe it doesn't matter. ;D



The only way to know for sure would be to build two identical bikes. Break one in one way and the other the other way.

Then use them in the same way all the time and see which one blows up first ;D

Who has time for that?!?
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

koko64

#81
October 22, 2016, 12:57:52 PM
How much work time with hard use is expected from this top end kit?
2015 Scrambler 800

Monsterlover

#82
October 22, 2016, 01:48:13 PM
Quote from: koko64 on October 22, 2016, 12:57:52 PM
How much work time with hard use is expected from this top end kit?

It's still a street bike, that I don't ride a whole lot, and as of now it's the only bike I ride on the track.
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

koko64

#83
October 22, 2016, 01:51:42 PM
Should be a blast. Interesting to hear what the power increase feels like from the saddle.
2015 Scrambler 800

ducpainter

#84
October 22, 2016, 01:52:04 PM
So...

it's a track bike. ;D
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


Monsterlover

#85
October 22, 2016, 01:53:15 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on October 22, 2016, 01:52:04 PM
So...

it's a track bike. ;D

It's always been that ;D
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

Monsterlover

#86
October 23, 2016, 11:09:34 AM
I don't know how to make the video show directly here but here's a link. Spent some time heat cycling and looking for leaks.

I melted a breather hose on the exhaust which then allowed some oil to sputter out onto the seam between the cylinder and head. It looked so much like coolant I thought I had a bad seal on the head gasket.

I fixed the burned hose, routed it a little better and cleaned the head and cylinder. No leaks.

Gave it a test ride. I haven't really beaten it yet but throttle response is better, low end is much better. It revs like a mothermake the beast with two backser. There was a point in second or third where it sounded a lot like a two stroke as far as how fast it was building rpm.

More experimentation needed [evil]
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

Monsterlover

#87
October 23, 2016, 11:10:05 AM
Huh. Video did it on it's own. Cool.
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

1.21GW

#88
October 23, 2016, 11:14:07 AM
Congrats.  Nice work.


When do you get to really test it wide open?  Track?  Or backroads?
"I doubt I'm her type---I'm sure she's used to the finer things.  I'm usually broke. I'm kinda sloppy..."

Monsterlover

#89
October 23, 2016, 11:42:36 AM
Quote from: 1.21GW on October 23, 2016, 11:14:07 AM
Congrats.  Nice work.


When do you get to really test it wide open?  Track?  Or backroads?

Thanks!

Backroads. My season is basically at an end this year. I'd like to have it broken in before I put it up for the winter.

Track days will resume in may or June
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**
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