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« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2016, 05:48:55 AM »

If You'reghey can't ride the Duc the only way he knows how to ride a bike...like a 250...he'll fail miserably.

Maybe Gigi can turn it into a 250 for him by tomorrow. Roll Eyes

Did/do you hold VR to the same standard (outside the 250 part)?  I'm a novice when it comes to racing but I've watched several seasons, and to an "outsider," VR is a poor sport.  MM spanked his bare ass last year and VR flew to pieces.  It's no secret that a lot of professional athletes have a screen face and a behind-the-screen face, the latter being uglier.
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« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2016, 05:55:59 AM »

Did/do you hold VR to the same standard (outside the 250 part)?  I'm a novice when it comes to racing but I've watched several seasons, and to an "outsider," VR is a poor sport.  MM spanked his bare ass last year and VR flew to pieces.  It's no secret that a lot of professional athletes have a screen face and a behind-the-screen face, the latter being uglier.
I'm not sure what that has to do with George's ability to adapt.

I've never suggested that VR wasn't an egomaniac, or even pleasant to be around, unless he was beating you.

He can, however, ride around situations that are less than perfect. George hasn't shown that ability to me.

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« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2016, 06:58:56 AM »

I'm not sure what that has to do with George's ability to adapt.

I've never suggested that VR wasn't an egomaniac, or even pleasant to be around, unless he was beating you.

He can, however, ride around situations that are less than perfect. George hasn't shown that ability to me.

They're all egomaniacs, but some are better at hiding it than others.

Jorghey is likely the fastest rider when conditions are perfect. If you there's anything "off", like weather or a newish track, he's mediocre. MM and VR are likely the most naturally skilled, but MM has the advantage of age.
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« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2016, 02:56:34 PM »

Would love that time machine.
Grab all the greats at their peak and put them on the same machine.

I think everyone up to Doohan would be close together.

Then this newer generation with their trust of machinery and tyres would be a ways in front due to the new riding style.

Unless same machine they all rode was 500 stroker on old tyres.  Evil
Then it would be very close. I have a feeling MM may still be quickest.

Anyway. Who hid my medication.  Grin
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« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2016, 05:37:11 PM »

I'm not sure what that has to do with George's ability to adapt.

I've never suggested that VR wasn't an egomaniac, or even pleasant to be around, unless he was beating you.

He can, however, ride around situations that are less than perfect. George hasn't shown that ability to me.

Fair enough.  I guess I lost a lot of respect for VR after last year's shenanigans and now all the top riders seem somewhat petty.

Now if I had all that talent and wealth, I'd be far more gracious.   Grin
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« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2016, 05:41:54 PM »

Fair enough.  I guess I lost a lot of respect for VR after last year's shenanigans and now all the top riders seem somewhat petty.

Now if I had all that talent and wealth, I'd be far more gracious.   Grin
Of course you would, Dave.

You're a gentleman. waytogo
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