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MonsterHPD

December 09, 2016, 08:30:02 AM

..... for my Monster 800?

http://www.ducati-kaemna.com/news/Scrambler-BB-en/

Well, of course, but isn't it tempting, along with the ST2 cams I have lying around doing no good at all.. [drool]
Monster 900-2002 (sold, alive and well in the UK), 749R / 1100 HYM combo for track days, wifes / my Monster Dark 800-2003 (not entirely "Dark" anymore and a personal favourite) , 50% of 900SSie -2000 track bike for rainy days-now with tuned ST2 motor and Microtec ECU. Also parked due to having been T-boned on track.

Speeddog

#1
December 09, 2016, 08:34:43 AM
I feel your pain.

Do it!
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stopintime

#2
December 09, 2016, 10:09:58 AM
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

MonsterHPD

#3
December 09, 2016, 10:25:03 AM
Well, Lars,
pretty obviously that was quite a bit of money, but not wasted ..... ;D

Not from 800 cc, I suppose? Ignoring the numbers for a moment, the improvement is quite impressive. And a nice ride, I assume?   
Monster 900-2002 (sold, alive and well in the UK), 749R / 1100 HYM combo for track days, wifes / my Monster Dark 800-2003 (not entirely "Dark" anymore and a personal favourite) , 50% of 900SSie -2000 track bike for rainy days-now with tuned ST2 motor and Microtec ECU. Also parked due to having been T-boned on track.

stopintime

#4
December 09, 2016, 10:35:32 AM
Quote from: MonsterHPD on December 09, 2016, 10:25:03 AM
Well, Lars,
pretty obviously that was quite a bit of money, but not wasted ..... ;D

Not from 800 cc, I suppose? Ignoring the numbers for a moment, the improvement is quite impressive. And a nice ride, I assume?   

Define wasting  [cheeky]

It's an ~840 including balancing, rods, port & polish, PCIII a.s.o.

The numbers are mathemagically manipulated to copy how Ducati measures, I think.
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

MonsterHPD

#5
December 09, 2016, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: stopintime on December 09, 2016, 10:35:32 AM
Define wasting  [cheeky]

It's an ~840 including balancing, rods, port & polish, PCIII a.s.o.

The numbers are mathemagically manipulated to copy how Ducati measures, I think.

Waste .....Asking me or my wife .... ?
Monster 900-2002 (sold, alive and well in the UK), 749R / 1100 HYM combo for track days, wifes / my Monster Dark 800-2003 (not entirely "Dark" anymore and a personal favourite) , 50% of 900SSie -2000 track bike for rainy days-now with tuned ST2 motor and Microtec ECU. Also parked due to having been T-boned on track.

greenohawk69

#6
December 09, 2016, 12:57:35 PM
Do it! You're not wasting my $$$.  :)
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MonsterHPD

#7
December 09, 2016, 01:09:20 PM
Quote from: greenohawk69 on December 09, 2016, 12:57:35 PM
Do it! You're not wasting my $$$.  :)

Haha :-)  Probably not mine either. Says my wife :-)
Monster 900-2002 (sold, alive and well in the UK), 749R / 1100 HYM combo for track days, wifes / my Monster Dark 800-2003 (not entirely "Dark" anymore and a personal favourite) , 50% of 900SSie -2000 track bike for rainy days-now with tuned ST2 motor and Microtec ECU. Also parked due to having been T-boned on track.

DarkMonster620

#8
December 09, 2016, 01:15:55 PM
Quote from: MonsterHPD on December 09, 2016, 12:01:03 PM
Waste .....Asking me or my wife .... ?
Mine thinks I am just overhauling my 620
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koko64

#9
December 11, 2016, 04:09:38 AM
What did you decide to do? [popcorn]
2015 Scrambler 800

MonsterHPD

#10
December 14, 2016, 01:23:08 PM
Well, right now .... nothing, actually.

My mate has just finished putting ST cams in his 800 heads (can never remember it it's 695 or 696 ...), so I'll start with noting what he's done so I can prepare the same since I have the cams. Then I'll consider my options ...... maybe the kit will show up on Kämnas offer of the month list sometime soon ....

BTW, checking my mates 695 (or 696 ... ?) cylinders, the lower liner bit is 3 mm wall thickness. Going to 840 cc means this will go down to 2 mm. I've always been a bit wary of taking things to the limit unless I'm prepared to do a lot of maintenance, or accepting other drawbacks. 2 mm on an alu liner, even if it's the lower part, seems rather on the limit to me. Any views or experience on this?           
Monster 900-2002 (sold, alive and well in the UK), 749R / 1100 HYM combo for track days, wifes / my Monster Dark 800-2003 (not entirely "Dark" anymore and a personal favourite) , 50% of 900SSie -2000 track bike for rainy days-now with tuned ST2 motor and Microtec ECU. Also parked due to having been T-boned on track.

koko64

#11
December 14, 2016, 11:45:00 PM
If it's any help, I just measured the lower barrel spigots from an M900 bored to 944, and they are about 3.5 mm.
2015 Scrambler 800

MonsterHPD

#12
December 15, 2016, 12:35:33 PM
Of course it's a help, any info is good to have.

I checked what I have lying around:
ST2: 100 / 94 mm, so wall thickness 3 mm
HYM 1100: 105 / 98 mm, so wall thickness 3.5 mm.

I'll have to check that 695 barrel again, I suppose. I don't know if they are the same, but they have the same 88 mm bore, at least.
Monster 900-2002 (sold, alive and well in the UK), 749R / 1100 HYM combo for track days, wifes / my Monster Dark 800-2003 (not entirely "Dark" anymore and a personal favourite) , 50% of 900SSie -2000 track bike for rainy days-now with tuned ST2 motor and Microtec ECU. Also parked due to having been T-boned on track.

Speeddog

#13
December 15, 2016, 03:40:21 PM
My small case big bore barrels are 96mm OD, 91mm ID, so 2.5mm wall.

(M750 I think, I'll have to ask the PO)

They have been terrifically reliable, they've given me no trouble at all sitting in a box.  ;D
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Reseda, CA
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greenmonster

#14
December 16, 2016, 02:50:14 AM
Just let it be.
Wife`s 800 just works f the occasional Sunday ride, doesn't it?
Sell the cams, put the money in the 1100 bottom.
Boring but sensible, I know... ;)
M900 -97 
MTS 1100s  -07
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