Friend went down in the twisties yesterday

[madmatt]

Oh, I love stories. The pipe bomb one was kinda tragic though. Can you please retell it with a happier ending? Thanks.

[55Spy]

You are not to blame, you are however acting like a girl.

Guys view

3 guys went riding. 2 buddies who ride together often and one new guy.  The day was going well with everyone riding within their limits and the 2 buddies factoring in "wait" sessions for the new guy so he could ride at his own pace.  The new guy crashed towards the end of the canyon ride, nobody was there to see it, it could have been anything that caused it.

the reality is that as a motorcycle rider you will have to ride roads for the first time.  And you have to go through every turn with an expectation of the unexpected the first time.

99.999999999999% his fault
0.000000000001% your buddies fault for bringing him along
0% your fault

If you can convince your self that 100% for sure he would not have crashed if you had been right in front of him then
you can blame yourself  but I don't think thats possible

[joekarati]

The dead horse has been officially beaten...

[gm2]

guess we need to talk about stoner/rossi/tires then.

[55Spy]

The dead horse has been officially beaten...

cmon lets kick it some more!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MetalDuc]

guess we need to talk about stoner/rossi/tires then.

I say we talk about oil. Surely he wouldn't have crashed had he been using Mobile 1 full synth....

[55Spy]

I say we talk about oil. Surely he wouldn't have crashed had he been using Mobile 1 full synth....

But he would have had to have broken the engine in with Dino oil!

[SteveG]

Hey, I'm confused. My manual says to run 95 octane, but all there is at the pump is 91. Will that damage my bike?

Thanks for any advice.

[derby]

Thanks for any advice.

ok, how about: don't drink like a fish the night before a track day... 

[MetalDuc]

Hey, I'm confused. My manual says to run 95 octane, but all there is at the pump is 91. Will that damage my bike?

Thanks for any advice.

Besides Derby's advice I would recommend 2 bottles of octane boost per tank as well as some lead additive. That should get you to 95 and prevent damage.

[Gus Duc]

Don't forget those Splifire spak plugs..... You hit your passing ger & your gone..... like right now

[NDSTRL620]

The fact that you are questioning your own judgment and even laying out a more thoughtful option might give you insight into what your conscience is telling you.  Of course, everyone here will pat you on the back and tell you to brush it off.  But, come on.  If you had an inkling to do what was more prudent and didn't act on it, then you're not completely blameless.

Not trying to be a dick, just looking at it from another perspective.  I'm NOT saying it's your fault that it happened.  Not at all.  I'm just saying perhaps you could have helped reduced the risk of it happening.  Kind of like when you see a kid about to cross the street into oncoming traffic.  Do you pull him back or just shrug your shoulders and think, "dumb ass?"

That is all.  So, if you have a hot girlfriend or wife, I suggest you show naked pictures of her to your downed friend to absolve you of some of this guilt you are feeling.  

+ 1

I stopped reading most of the post after this one.  Well stated.

I have noticed that experienced riders tend to like to show how experienced they are around new guys. Wake up people he was NEW. (Gee, lets take the new guy into a canyon in dense fog at a speed that will make him feel like a pussy if he can't keep up.)

In the future just recognize that you are not necessarily the person to break in new riders. From what I glimpsed so far most of those who posted aren't either.

~ Just an opinion...

[joekarati]

+ 1

I stopped reading most of the post after this one.  Well stated.

I have noticed that experienced riders tend to like to show how experienced they are around new guys. Wake up people he was NEW. (Gee, lets take the new guy into a canyon in dense fog at a speed that will make him feel like a pussy if he can't keep up.)

In the future just recognize that you are not necessarily the person to break in new riders. From what I glimpsed so far most of those who posted aren't either.

~ Just an opinion...

- 1

Beaten Horse Dead Now For Weeks-A.P.

A horse that appeared on the Ducati Monster Forum has now officially been beaten so badly by its members, that PETA has said even it's organization is beyond being sympathetic to any new comers willing to "pick up the stick and start whacking."  Despite attempts to discourage similar types of behavior on the subject, onlookers are stunned when newcomers and veterans of the Forum continue to brutalize and beat a subject that has been dead for nearly three weeks. 

[GregP]

Oh, I have a story.  Check this out.

So senior year in college I go out with my bud, like a thousand nights before.  The usual foolishness you'd expect occurs and I end up sleeping with some random skank before I completely black out from drunkeness.  Next morning  I return to find my bud has met a lovely young lady that the rest of my friends and I know is a raving control freak pregnant dog after about two days.

My bud marries said pregnant dog after graduation and settles into adulthood. (Me, I continue acting like I'm in college for about another 5-6 years!!   ). She rides him like a mule and he becomes a very succesful widget salesman and also picks up a wicked drinking habit because deep down he hates the pregnant dog  but is too much of a pussy to walk away. Twenty years later he is a ragging alcoholic who's in and out of rehad and she leaves his ass when he gets fired from his widget sales job.

I can't help but think that had I not been a drunken man-whore that night and helped him meet an equally skanky whore that he would be happy like me having never met his "dream" girl that night!

What do you think?

PS To quote my completely self-centered brother (I envy his ability to totally focus on himself)," Everyone is responsible for their own good times."  I think you can exchange the word bad for good in this case and all the sad sack stories in this thread. 

[Ducatiloo]

Don't forget those Splifire spak plugs..... You hit your passing ger & your gone..... like right now

+1 I put five of them in my bike,  10 mpg above average too.