Chain and Sprocket(s)

[CookieMonster]

Ok so with 13K on the clock I went on one ride too long.

Two rides ago I heard my chain clicking a little and pegged it on the last wash I gave the bike and the lack of lube on the chain. So I got home, lubed the chain, checked tension and was good to go.

The bike spends in the garage when not in use (protected from the not so harsh elements), I have a clutchless riding style, don't pull wheelies but I think my riding style is to blame for this.

So the following day after lubing the chain I happen to notice that my chain was a bit lower than usual, checked the tension and the bottom chain reached the sss. I took a look at the rear hub to see how much room I had to play with and it was all the way to the rear...so I gently rode the bike home.

With 15T up front, 41T at the rear (which they both look pretty good), I wanted to keep the sprockets considering they look good and just going with the chain for now and upgrade to a QC carrier, sprocket cover and new axle nut set at a later day. The reason I say the rest at a later date is because I kinda damaged the sss with me not catching this in time and I'm hoping this is not as bad as it looks.

The question is...can I just replace the chain? I mean...the sprockets look good. What do you think? Who has done what I'm planning on doing before?

[stopintime]

New chain is a good idea  (was a while back too)

Sprockets are ok.

Don't ignore your chain in the future 

[CookieMonster]

New chain is a good idea  (was a while back too)

Sprockets are ok.

Don't ignore your chain in the future 

Awesome! So with that said I'm gonna go with a D.I.D 525 ZVM-X as opposed to the EK 3D I originally wanted to go with, that way the DID chain lasts as long as the sprockets have left in life...then I will upgrade all of the drive components!

Maybe one day I can powdercoat the sss to hide the chain rash it now has

[stopintime]

 
       

[CookieMonster]

oh that looks hella sexy! 

[lobsta2]

My S2r carrier cush drives were smoke @ 13k.
Maybe give those a look too.

[Charlie98]

No offense... but it looks like you've spent a bit of money on your bike (judging by the bit of bling I can see in the photos,) and now you are going to cheap out on the cogs and accelerate wear on a new chain?

If you look at the bottom pic of your rear sprocket, notice how the bearing surface of the teeth (i.e. the 'back' of each tooth that the chain pulls against) is worn, enough that you can see it compared to the 'front' of the tooth (that does not see the bearing load the 'back' of the tooth does.)  Can you continue to use them?  Sure.  Would I?  No.

[S21FOLGORE]

To CokkieMonster,

You listed Quick Change Carrier as your future shopping item. Just wanted to remind you that QC carrier has no real advantage over the stock sprocket carrier for the 99% of the street riders.

If you want it as a bling part, that's perfectly fine. (It is mostly covered by the flange, so it's not really visible, though.)
But otherwise, better to spend the money somewhere else.

[Howie]

No offense... but it looks like you've spent a bit of money on your bike (judging by the bit of bling I can see in the photos,) and now you are going to cheap out on the cogs and accelerate wear on a new chain?

If you look at the bottom pic of your rear sprocket, notice how the bearing surface of the teeth (i.e. the 'back' of each tooth that the chain pulls against) is worn, enough that you can see it compared to the 'front' of the tooth (that does not see the bearing load the 'back' of the tooth does.)  Can you continue to use them?  Sure.  Would I?  No.

Yep.  Even when you don't see wear you will if you hod it up to a new sprocket you will see a difference.  Always change the sprockets and chain as a set.  Well maybe not always but at 13K miles?

[S21FOLGORE]

Perhaps, forget about quick change carrier set up,
(QC carrier $170 + Sprocket $59 = $229)

buy a set of new sprocket instead?
$35 for front + $159 for Supersprox Stealth rear sprocket =$194)


QC carrier
http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/PCD-2/Chain-Sprocket/PCD-2.html

sprocket
http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/50607/Chain-Sprocket/50607.html

Afam front sprocket
http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/52604d15/Chain-Sprocket/52604d15.html

Supersprox Stealth rear sprocket
http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/736/Chain-Sprocket/736.html

You will save some money in parts price, you will also save money in the long run (chain will last longer).

Beside, like I said earlier, QC set up has no real advantage over the stock carrier.
(Even for serious racers, it really has no advantage. Look at Troy Bayliss's WSBK race bike. It's got stock style carrier set up.)

[CookieMonster]

No offense... but it looks like you've spent a bit of money on your bike (judging by the bit of bling I can see in the photos,) and now you are going to cheap out on the cogs and accelerate wear on a new chain?

If you look at the bottom pic of your rear sprocket, notice how the bearing surface of the teeth (i.e. the 'back' of each tooth that the chain pulls against) is worn, enough that you can see it compared to the 'front' of the tooth (that does not see the bearing load the 'back' of the tooth does.)  Can you continue to use them?  Sure.  Would I?  No.

I see what you are pointing out...and I will keep the bushings in mind too. I guess you guys are right, money better spent on other parts other than fancy not so useful sprocket. So I guess that 3D chain is back on the list! 

[CookieMonster]

now...would anyone go as far as saying that I have compromised the integrity of my sss with that chain rash? 

[lobsta2]

My S2r chain adjustment became oddly frequent (too tight, measured like the book says, too loose later), then noisy like a dry chain.
Reminded me of SSSA Honda Hawk ( critical chain adj) I owned.
Bingo, local shop did a oem chain, sprocket, cush bush, and the magic is back.

[Speeddog]

now...would anyone go as far as saying that I have compromised the integrity of my sss with that chain rash? 

Nope, just cosmetic.

[krista]

People still believe worn sprockets will wear a new chain faster than new sprockets? Lemme get this clear: I'm being told that brand new sprockets with a relatively rough coating that has to be worn off to make a smooth shiny surface wears on metal rubbing it less than a smooth shiny surface?

If sprockets aren't worn to the point you can see lines or ridges in them, they're fine to reuse.

OK, back to work. I hate the wiring I have to do on The Beast right now and need to quit stalling.

Chris