I need pet help.

[GLantern]

+1 for Cesar!!

[Le Pirate]

It sounds like 3rd dog syndrome (I just made this up, but It's true).


2 dogs are great, but when you add the third, it's always going to be the pain in the ass dog. We have 2 dogs....they're fine. My parents have 3, the youngest is a pain in the ass. My grand parents have 3...the youngest is a pain in the ass. My wifes parents have three...guess where I'm going with this....


If it's a rescue dog....the rescue place should be open to taking it back if it can't get along with the other animals in your house. I know when I had my rescue husky, they told me they would take it back in a heartbeat if it didn't get along with the other dogs. No harm, no foul.

[S4ROB]

Shock Collar

[TiNi]

It sounds like 3rd dog syndrome (I just made this up, but It's true).

it would be interesting to see how annie behaves as an only pet...

[akmnstr]

+1 for Cesar!!

I think you should do your best to apply Cesar's approach.  It is simple. Be the pack leader, give the problem dog a job, and lots of structured exercise.  I've had lots of dogs but never a terrier.  Keep in mind that they were breed to kill rats.  It sounds like a lot of the breed in behavior is coming out.  How I approach training is to let my dogs know that I am in charge.  I never give in to bad behavior, like your scratching to get out of the crate.  Train the dog to respond to a few simple commands and never forget to praise the dog for doing the right thing.  By learning simple commands the dog will learn how to learn and your praise will make it fun.  Once the dog learns how to learn simple things and that you are the pack leader addition learning will become easy.  For discipline I use a 3 level approach that imitates the way a true canine pack leader would discipline pack members.  1. Yell and gesture when the dog it is bad.  Look mad as hell and scary.  2. For more serious infractions or if 1 has no impact grab the dog by the scruff  of the neck and shake the dog along with yelling and looking mad and mean.  3.  Put the dog on its back and hold it there until it submits.  Whimpers and wining are a sign of submission.  You can also hold the dogs head back and flat to the ground so that its throat is exposed.  This position exposes all the dogs vulnerable body parts and demands submission.  I have found that hitting a headstrong dog just messes the dog up and triggers a defensive reaction.  Control your anger and stick to the 3 steps.  Note that in the above I said act mean, keep your true emotions under control.  For problem dogs that run away I use a shock collar.   

But emphasize the praise and positive aspects of training.  Once you establish yourself as the pack leader and that doing what you want is fun you will seldom have to use the discipline techniques.   

[akmnstr]

it would be interesting to see how annie behaves as an only pet...

I think that Annie would still be a problem dog.  I suspect that Annie's previous owners did not provide her with any structure and in
the end she became her own pack leader. 

[Grampa]

I'm pretty sure the dogs (as a group) behave and dont attack each other, because, I'm the pack leader, and when lm or the boys are with them, and I'm not there, they fight.  But thats just one of the problems thats kind of been solved. Traning lm and the boys to act as pack leaders, I think would be a lil harder.

getting Annie to stop attacking the cats is #1

getting Annie to stop shitting and pissing in the house #2

getting Annie to stop jumping on the furniture #3

getting the other dogs to play with Annie #4


right now... doing the pet/food/sleep arangements shuffle has worn me out, and I'm at a point where I'm not thrilled about anting to help make it better.

we have two carpet cleaners, one small, and one large, and I'm sick and tired of running them both daily. To have a pet that just sits outside all day, is stupid.

[cyrus buelton]

If the dog is being aggressive towards other animals, you have two options:


1. Have the dog put down for its own good
2. Find a rescue group willing to take a dog that can't associate with other animals.


Remember, you got a rescue. You had no idea where that dog has been before.

[Grampa]

If the dog is being aggressive towards other animals, you have two options:


1. Have the dog put down for its own good
2. Find a rescue group willing to take a dog that can't associate with other animals.


Remember, you got a rescue. You had no idea where that dog has been before.

I say... the dog is attacking the cats

lm says... it want to play with them, albeit rough.

I can sort of see that.... but.... Bob (as an example), does not want to play, and will make the beast with two backs that dog up in the process. Annie will contine to "play" with Bob, until you pull her away bleeding, and even then, she tries to pull away so she can get back into it. I dont want to come home someday, and find a dead pet, be it dog or cat.

The dog, according to the vet, is as close to a pure bread as you can get. Both lm and myself, were kind of suprised to find her in a shelter,thinking, who would ditch a purebread terrier? I'm kinda wondering if the dog was let out on purpose. I hate the thought of taking her back to a shelter.

[Mother]

which idea do you hate more

new dog back to the shelter?

or

coming home and finding bob with his stuffing strewn all over the floor?

[TiNi]

bob can totally take annie 

[cyrus buelton]

I say... the dog is attacking the cats

lm says... it want to play with them, albeit rough.

I can sort of see that.... but.... Bob (as an example), does not want to play, and will make the beast with two backs that dog up in the process. Annie will contine to "play" with Bob, until you pull her away bleeding, and even then, she tries to pull away so she can get back into it. I dont want to come home someday, and find a dead pet, be it dog or cat.

The dog, according to the vet, is as close to a pure bread as you can get. Both lm and myself, were kind of suprised to find her in a shelter,thinking, who would ditch a purebread terrier? I'm kinda wondering if the dog was let out on purpose. I hate the thought of taking her back to a shelter.

Get rid of the dog dude.

[Mother]

Get rid of the dog dude.

this pains me

but

I have to agree with Jud

[Grampa]

bob can totally take annie 

lm says the same thing.... but.... if left alone.... Annie does not give up, and if Annie gets one good lunge in ,all it will take is one good shake of the neck.

It's that not giving up thing that scares and pisses me off.... and at what time does the play become attack?

FTR... we have had three dogs. Our last dog Topaz, was a wire hair fox terrier.  Topaz was nowhere near the spaz Annie is. (Topaz died of old age a few months ago)

[cyrus buelton]

this pains me

but

I have to agree with Jud

Wow, this might be an all time first