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ian48th
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Current clutch slave options - older Monster
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April 29, 2018, 07:49:22 PM »
It's been a while since I looked for a replacement clutch slave cylinder for my 2000 M900. What are the best options these days? I value function over beauty.
I currently have an Evoluzione slave cylinder and have never been really satisfied. I never objected to the strong pull required of the stock unit; I got the Evoluzione because the stocker was disintegrating. The replacement is easier to pull, but doesn't push the pushrod as much - maybe 2mm - and I have to fiddle with the plates and springs to find the sweet spot where it works well. And that's where I'm at right now, fiddling with it and wondering if a better slave cylinder is out there.
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Re: Current clutch slave options - older Monster
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April 29, 2018, 10:19:57 PM »
Still rocking the stocker on my monster, but quite happy with the yoyodyne unit on the SBK. Very functional and well-built not bling. Not up to date with their current offerings, but if I needed one today I might look there first.
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April 30, 2018, 01:53:52 AM »
I just replaced a stocker on my 01 M900 which was leaking with the upgraded stocker. The new unit has the pushrod with the anti turn pin. I find it a good setup.
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April 30, 2018, 03:26:30 AM »
Do you know what the bore is on your Evoluzione? If memory serves me correctly there were some 30 mm bore replacements available that were a bit too much. 28 seems to be a better number (if you want to reduce effort over stock). If so, here is a good one
https://monsterparts.com/products/oberon-clutch-slave-cylinder
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April 30, 2018, 07:25:41 AM »
Not sure what the bore is in the Evoluzione slave I have. I'll consider the Oberon, and I see PSR models available online, but I have a couple more questions...
Would an upgraded stock unit be available only from the dealer?
Is it possible or sensible to rebuild the original? I still have it.
Thanks, guys!
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April 30, 2018, 08:56:33 AM »
I think Evoluzione sold two bores, 28mm and 30. I could be wrong. Oberon is 28mm, don't know about PSR. Wider the bore, less effort, trade off being less travel.
I don't remember, but I think 2001 was first year of no longer rebuildable slaves, but there is an easy way to tell if yours is. The non rebuildable units have a large hex on the front, like for an allen key.
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April 30, 2018, 10:39:17 AM »
Quote from: howie on April 30, 2018, 08:56:33 AM
The non rebuildable units have a large hex on the front, like for an allen key.
more like a triple square/XZN but yeah
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Quote from: booger on April 30, 2018, 10:39:17 AM
more like a triple square/XZN but yeah
I was thinking that too! Lol!
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Yes it does.
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They'd be rebuildable if they weren't chemically welded into 1 piece.
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May 01, 2018, 12:51:10 AM »
There's a good thread on this worth searching for.
Iirc old oem 26, new oem 28, Oberon 29, Yoyodyne 29.
I had an Oberon fail within six months so went back to stock on my Hyper. Running the old oem 26mm version on my M900. Works beautifully and I hear some dealers have rebuild kits for them.
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May 02, 2018, 07:49:37 PM »
I didn't find that thread, but I called my local dealer who told me that the original part for my bike was in fact replaced by another, part number 23610104A, which is just the clutch slave housing. I poked around online and see that there is also a rebuild kit that goes along with it - you'd need both. There are photos at the following links.
part # 23610104A
Ducati Clutch Slave Cylinder for all Ducatis 2000 and earlier. This is the outer housing only.
https://www.gothamcycles.com/Clutch/Ducati-Clutch-Slave-Cylinder-Early-Style_1.html
part # 19590023B
OEM Ducati Clutch Slave Cylinder Spring & Rebuild Kit for all Ducatis 2000 and earlier.
https://www.gothamcycles.com/ducati-clutch-slave-cylinder-piston--spring-rebuild-kit.html
I don't know what the diameter of the bore is, but I'm leaning towards this.
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Oberon would be my vote. A Yoyodyne came with my bike and I am not crazy about it. Not sure if an Oberon would be better but my mechanic swears by them. Someday when I have extra funds I'll make the switch for the hell of it.
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May 02, 2018, 11:51:35 PM »
Iirc, ducpainter has used the rebuild kit. I think the seal kit and a hone.
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May 03, 2018, 02:06:32 AM »
Quote from: koko64 on May 02, 2018, 11:51:35 PM
Iirc, ducpainter has used the rebuild kit. I think the seal kit and a hone.
I still have the original slave on my bike. There has always been a seal available for that cylinder. It didn't come with a piston. I'm not aware of a kit that includes a piston and spring...or a boot. Mines been rebuilt more times than I can remember. I only use the clutch for starting off and lightly on downshifts.
A new cylinder shouldn't need to be honed, unless the bore is simply drilled, or bored on a mill.
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