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koko64

#150
July 09, 2019, 02:08:28 AM Last Edit: July 09, 2019, 03:17:12 AM by koko64
IMG_2258 by Tony Kokonis, on Flickr

IMG_2257 by Tony Kokonis, on Flickr

Old Staintunes fitted with intermediate DB killers, not too loud and not too quiet. The next size down in DB killers make these homolgated as per the ADR plate on the inside of each muffler.

My bro rode the bike today and also liked the ergos and felt comfortable with the tyre and handling characteristics. It was good to get feedback from a rider with better dirtbike riding credentials. ;D
2015 Scrambler 800

Howie

#151
July 09, 2019, 04:27:31 AM
 [thumbsup]

koko64

#152
July 09, 2019, 05:56:00 AM Last Edit: July 09, 2019, 06:10:21 AM by koko64
Running Pirelli MT60RS 120/70/17 & 160/60/17. May try Metzler's new Karoo Street tyres in 120/70/17 & 150/70/17 or 170/60/17 which are nearly a hundred bucks cheaper than the Pirellis and over a hundred less than TKC 70's.

https://www.motorcycletyrewarehouse.com.au/metzeler-karoo-street
2015 Scrambler 800

ducpainter

#153
July 09, 2019, 07:16:42 AM
Will they do a pair deal on a narrower rear with a 120/17 front?
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koko64

#154
July 09, 2019, 11:35:27 AM Last Edit: July 09, 2019, 11:50:19 AM by koko64
Quote from: ducpainter on July 09, 2019, 07:16:42 AM
Will they do a pair deal on a narrower rear with a 120/17 front?
No special deal I can see, but my local Yamaha shop looks after me.

For some reason Continentals are incredibly expensive here, regularly 100+ bucks more than any other brand. A mate's Tiger 800 came with TKC70's, but although very impressed with their performance he looked elsewhere for replacements. With a 19" front, he saved 150ish on a set with another brand. The TKC 70's were great in the wet.

Metzler recently came to the party with the new Karoo Street providing a 17" front. Before that only 19 and 21 inch Karoo fronts. There are no Karoo Street 160 rears, just a 150 and 170 each side at ten bucks more for the 170. Strange they have a 170 instead of a 160 as I thought 170's were being phased out. The Pirelli MT60RS 160/60/17 looks like a 150 on the Ducati Brembo 4.5" rim. Anyone know if Metzler are on the fat side like Dunlops or more like Pirelli and Michelin?
Before the Karoo Street only Avon (Trailrider), Continental (TKC70) and Pirelli (MT60RS) provided a front 120/70/17 dual sport tyre for our market.
I cant get the Michelin Anakee and Dunlop Trail range in a 17 front tyre. That was quite frustrating as Michelin is my go to mfr, but no 17" fronts. The Anakee 3 range has a horizontal paddle shaped tread pattern which makes me think of sand drag racing.
The US tyre range and prices make me weep. Economies of scale I guess.
2015 Scrambler 800

ducpainter

#155
July 09, 2019, 02:35:27 PM
...but we can't get a race rain for a 5.5" rim. [bang]

I want to set up the SS I bought as a wet bike, and would invest in full rain tires, but I can't buy one here.
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    is even more amazing than yours."
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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koko64

#156
July 09, 2019, 04:08:24 PM
That's amazing.
I heard racers are using the Pirelli MT60RS Corsa's for rain tyres in local SBK. 180 rears.
2015 Scrambler 800

koko64

#157
October 21, 2019, 05:42:32 AM
Quote from: koko64 on October 19, 2018, 05:26:33 PM
20181005_115746 by Tony Kokonis, on Flickr

The K&N barrel filters and bags that protect them. The code for the bags which will also cover RU 1750's

20181010_204714 by Tony Kokonis, on Flickr

Thanks to Speeddog for putting me onto the K&N site that lets you select parts by dimension, code and model. Bloody handy. [thumbsup]

I found some tuning notes after relocating.

The pod filters in question are K&N RU-0800's. 102mm long, 89mm in diameter and have a short flange with 62mm ID. The short straight flange lets the pods clear the tank and gives air a straighter path to the carb bellmouth. These are better than the RU-1750's because they have a molded in bellmouth or V stack radius for a better transition from the filter edge to the flange, whereas the 1750's have a sharp, right angle.

Just something to consider with pods.
2015 Scrambler 800

Howie

#158
October 21, 2019, 08:48:07 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on July 09, 2019, 02:35:27 PM
...but we can't get a race rain for a 5.5" rim. [bang]

I want to set up the SS I bought as a wet bike, and would invest in full rain tires, but I can't buy one here.

175/55 RX 17 KR404 Rear Dunlop Rain Tire
Intended use for:

    600cc motorcycle rear tire
    Recommended Rim 5.5″ â€" 6″
    Overall Diameter: 600mm
    Overall Width: 116mm
    45024484

185/55 RX 17 KR404 Rear Dunlop Rain Tire
Intended use for:

    600cc motorcycle rear tire
    1000cc motorcycle rear tire
    Recommended Rim 5.5″ â€" 6″
    Overall Diameter: 25.43
    Overall Width: 7.36
    45024890

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ducpainter

#159
October 21, 2019, 10:57:34 AM
Quote from: howie on October 21, 2019, 08:48:07 AM
175/55 RX 17 KR404 Rear Dunlop Rain Tire
Intended use for:

    600cc motorcycle rear tire
    Recommended Rim 5.5″ â€" 6″
    Overall Diameter: 600mm
    Overall Width: 116mm
    45024484

185/55 RX 17 KR404 Rear Dunlop Rain Tire
Intended use for:

    600cc motorcycle rear tire
    1000cc motorcycle rear tire
    Recommended Rim 5.5″ â€" 6″
    Overall Diameter: 25.43
    Overall Width: 7.36
    45024890

Twist the Throttle With Us!


Was hoping for Michelin's, but that's an option if the 185 doesn't foul the chain.
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 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


koko64

#160
October 21, 2019, 01:15:35 PM
It'll be close as Dunlops can be a little plump for the size.
2015 Scrambler 800

ducpainter

#162
October 21, 2019, 04:49:56 PM
That link goes to an on/off road tire, not a rain.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


koko64

#163
October 21, 2019, 04:52:54 PM
The stickier Corsa version gets used as a race rain tyre. Worth an enquiry.
2015 Scrambler 800

ducpainter

#164
October 21, 2019, 05:11:06 PM
Quote from: koko64 on October 21, 2019, 04:52:54 PM
The stickier Corsa version gets used as a race rain tyre. <snip>
Only in Oz. :P
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


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