2019 Monster 1200 R skimped on!

[Kirigakure]

A pal of mine just bought a new 2019 Monster 1200 R. Man he paid a premium for it, so I was excited to check it out. But damn if they didn't skimp on that bike. No quickshifter (and other owners reported that aftermarket one's lunch the gearbox), no engine braking control, and no wheelie control. There's probably some more I'm missing. I was shocked as my pals on 1200 S models have those features. He doesn't regret the purchase, but we were trying to wrap our heads around why Ducati marketed this bike as sort of a track-inspired version of the ultimate Monster but left off the features that are actually useful on a track (and that lesser models have). Thoughts?

[koko64]

No slipper clutch?!

[stopintime]

Compress the fork and have a good laugh, or a cry. Not worthy an R is the kind description. Fraud is another. 

If it was me that fork would end up in a dark place   

The same problems as with the pre '17 non R.

I can only hope that Ducati's lack of R upgrades must be because they have something better coming (segment winning STREETFIGHTER)

[Kirigakure]

No slipper clutch?!

It does have the slipper action on over run, so at least there's that. But supermeh to the max on this bike. I mean, for the money - holy shit.

[Armor]

The 1200 R has a lot more power, less weight, better geometry, revalved suspension, exhaust that doesn't get in the way, longer swing arm so you don't need wheelie control.  It is a much faster bike that handles better.  It has traction control and a slipper clutch.  The only thing is does not have is a quick shifter.

[Stuka Pilot]

The 1200 R has a lot more power, less weight, better geometry, revalved suspension, exhaust that doesn't get in the way, longer swing arm so you don't need wheelie control.  It is a much faster bike that handles better.  It has traction control and a slipper clutch.  The only thing is does not have is a quick shifter.

Yup, exactly.

I have owned both - and still own a 1200R, it is a completely different animal to the softly softly 1200/1200S.

As far as cost goes, it is what people are prepared to pay, and exclusivity carries a premium.

[koko64]

Whats the power and on road performance difference?

[Stuka Pilot]

Handling is much tighter and sharper, benefit of steering damper should you need it. Power up ~20 hp, though the std 1200 is not especially underpowered.

Riding position is so much better, I have never owned a bike with a quick shift so I am not missing what I have never had.

Looks pretty cool too.

The big downside (for my wife) is that the grab handles have been replaced by under the seat grooves to hang on to. The price you pay for the sharper lines I guess.

[koko64]

+20hp not to be sneezed at. What are we looking at at the wheel?

[koko64]

The bike got very positive reviews from what I could see.

[Jinx_GP]

The bike got very positive reviews from what I could see.

Any thoughts on the 2017 R version?

I'm getting back into riding after 7 years and looking at a '17 w nice options, fairly high miles (18K), but all services -- valve clearance, etc -- completed. Just wondering if there are any little nuances I should be aware of from an experienced owner.

TIA!

[kopfjäger]

[Jinx_GP]

Thx K.... it's a sick bike just not sure it's the right bike for me.  I'll never utilize all that power on the street and, personally, I won't track it.  I want it.... but it's probably overkill 🤷‍♂️

[ungeheuer]

I'm getting back into riding after 7 years and looking at a '17 w nice options, fairly high miles (18K), but all services -- valve clearance, etc -- completed. Just wondering if there are any little nuances I should be aware of from an experienced owner.

TIA!

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[Jinx_GP]

Many Thx.... It's good to be back!