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« Reply #120 on: July 02, 2023, 11:37:38 AM »

Did you replace the filter?
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« Reply #121 on: July 02, 2023, 11:49:39 AM »

Did you replace the filter?

No.
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« Reply #122 on: July 03, 2023, 02:59:04 AM »

Back in the day we used to sprinkle a little water into the intake to remove carbon deposits from the combustion chamber.

I remember seeing the carbon hit the wall when we did that.
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« Reply #123 on: July 03, 2023, 03:02:26 AM »


I concur with your diagnosis.

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« Reply #124 on: July 03, 2023, 10:51:18 AM »

(Howie: I will get the filter replaced)(Just a little difficult working in between rain showers outside, so I prioritize)

New injectors today  waytogo The air filter box usually puts up a fight - both off and on, but not today. The old injectors themselves took a little pulling to remove, but the new were easy to slide in with a little silicone spray. Even the make the beast with two backsing electrical connectors went off easily - no springs flying off.



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« Reply #125 on: July 03, 2023, 02:45:30 PM »

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« Reply #126 on: July 04, 2023, 08:47:17 AM »

Anyone have experience replacing the starter? Is the gasket usually toast or can it be used again? The workshop manual says "inspect for wear and replace if necessary".
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« Reply #127 on: July 04, 2023, 11:45:49 AM »

Anyone have experience replacing the starter? Is the gasket usually toast or can it be used again? The workshop manual says "inspect for wear and replace if necessary".
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« Reply #128 on: July 04, 2023, 01:54:07 PM »

Chances are the gasket would be good.  To me "chances"  means you need it to finish the job.  Ducati Omaha says one pack (two gaskets) is $7.98.  What would cost you with shipping andtaxes?  No idea.  I could by them and mail them to you if neccessary.  I think it woukd also be easy enough to make.
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« Reply #129 on: July 04, 2023, 02:18:05 PM »

If it's the old style gasket it can be helped with three bond/sealant after cleaning on the exposed side. Thats if it is stuck to the case and not the starter. Removing from the starter may ruin it. The new gaskets are metallic to stop them insulating the earth through the starter body! No wonder we put extra earth cables on them! Any three bond/sealant makes it worse. So using a paper gasket may mean adding another earth cable to the bolt that goes through the cases and into the starter motor body. So greasing and locktighting that bolt doesn't help the earth point. If you cant retrofit the metallic gasget, try a cable from the frame battery earth point to the timing case bolt that holds the starter.
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« Reply #130 on: July 06, 2023, 10:36:15 AM »

COOL  Cool

It works!

Just a short question first; is it normal that the gear selector output shaft is a little loose? I thought I saw it wiggle a little when I put the side cover back on.

Other than that, I'm really pleased that it went well AND that it started so eagerly. One casing hole threads stripped. I hope the neighbouring bolts will do the job. Rain today so I haven't tested if the cover is oil tight.

BTW there was no gasket between casing and starter. Just some liquid gasket residue.

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« Reply #131 on: July 06, 2023, 12:35:52 PM »

Which brand starter? I've been told that the Arrowhead brand is often used by workshops here. I've only used one in an MTS as I usually have them rebuilt. I see the gasket in the pic, looks like the metallic one. waytogo. The outer case supports the gear lever shaft. How much play with case fitted?
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« Reply #132 on: July 06, 2023, 02:01:02 PM »

https://www.carpimoto.it/en-NO/Bike_Ducati_Monster-S2R-800/36803_27040011A-Engine-Starter-for-Ducati-engines-listed.htm

No play with the cover fitted.
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« Reply #133 on: July 06, 2023, 03:09:04 PM »

It's a really long shaft. It'll be fine.
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« Reply #134 on: July 07, 2023, 11:11:23 AM »

"There is reason to believe power is restored"  Lips Sealed

Still issues with the idle speed, but not much. The workshop suggest the new injectors don't work perfectly with the map created with/for the old ones. We'll try to correct that on the Dyno later in July. At the same time we'll look into false air and the strange spark plug.
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