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« Reply #195 on: June 28, 2022, 06:15:19 PM »

Nice. So it'll be done soon?  laughingdp

Likely on the road next summer.
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« Reply #196 on: June 30, 2022, 03:41:56 PM »

Likely on the road next summer.

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« Reply #197 on: June 30, 2022, 04:54:18 PM »

DIMBY 2023!!!

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Seems reasonable!
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« Reply #198 on: June 30, 2022, 06:25:28 PM »

DIMBY 2023!!!

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Seems reasonable!

That would be a looooog way to go in this thing laughingdp

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« Reply #199 on: July 01, 2022, 02:40:56 AM »

That would be a looooog way to go in this thing laughingdp

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« Reply #200 on: July 02, 2022, 01:42:46 PM »

New frame design to clear the front axle tube
2022-07-02_05-39-51 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

2022-07-02_05-40-08 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr
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« Reply #201 on: July 03, 2022, 12:33:08 PM »

It would be swell if this works

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« Reply #202 on: July 03, 2022, 03:45:12 PM »

I've never seen a joggle like that done with the frame removed before.  Tongue
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« Reply #203 on: July 03, 2022, 04:52:25 PM »

I've never seen a joggle like that done with the frame removed before.  Tongue

How else could you do it?  Old and new can't take up the same space
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« Reply #204 on: July 03, 2022, 05:16:32 PM »

Weld the notch in place and then the part under the hump gets cut off.

Like this:

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« Reply #205 on: July 03, 2022, 05:42:17 PM »

Interesting. Everything I cut off is being replaced though. No material to weld to on the front half
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« Reply #206 on: July 04, 2022, 12:32:32 AM »

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« Reply #207 on: August 14, 2022, 03:17:24 PM »

I guess I should update. That last month or so has been a struggle. I have had problem after problem with my mig welder. On top of that, with mig, I'm at the bottom of the learning curve as far as troubleshooting. Thankfully one of my employees has years of experience with mig and has been coaching me through it.

Welding on the bench is cake. Anyone can do it. Welding on a vehicle, out of position, using muscles you don't even have is a challenge.

I can't tell you how many welds I did, hated, then ground out only to repeat the process.

Fun fact, just because things go well on an, for example, outside corner joint that's horizontal does not mean the same settings will work on the same joint at any other angle. It's wild. Gravity plays a big part as well.

I had so many bad welds I resorted to welding test coupons that mimicked the joint and angle so I had at least a chance of getting settings close enough to produce a good (enough) weld. Since the section of frame I'm adding will support the engine, front suspension and steering my life is depending on the quality of this work.

I never got the hang of vertical up but vertical down I could make work. So that's what I ran on the truck. Whatever worked best on test coupons was the winner.

In the end, the welds are functional.  I hate them all and wish they were better looking.

It begins-
2022-08-14_06-44-14 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

2022-08-14_06-44-31 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

Had to use an old splitting maul to force the rails into position. Use what you have and all.

2022-08-14_06-44-44 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

One side plated and tacked together
2022-08-14_06-45-08 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

Two shots of the old frame on the floor directly under the new frame. Nice that the angles matched. The second pic I shifted to one side to get rid of the parallax. If I had this wrong the old frame
rail on the one side would be visible under the new frame. Success!
2022-08-14_06-45-25 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

2022-08-14_06-45-34 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

Rather than build more shit than I needed to I decided to try and reuse the core support.
2022-08-14_06-45-43 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

Too bad I trimmed too much and now have some huge gaps to contend with. Whatever. I'll handle it. I was at least able to tack it into place.
2022-08-14_06-45-54 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

Here you can see that the rear half of the support's attachment area is gone. I decided to box the underside with 3/16 plate. The plan is to trim off that corner flap and then make a triangular piece of steel to fit the gap and tie in the frame to the plating I added underneath.
2022-08-14_06-46-02 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

2022-08-14_06-46-11 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

Strong, like bull.
2022-08-14_06-46-18 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

And of course, I needed to refit the cowl and hood to make sure everything was going to go back where it came from. What a dumbass I would be if I fully welded everything and then found I'd made a mistake. I'm not going to be that guy.
2022-08-14_06-46-32 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

It will need some slight adjustments to fit exactly the way it did before I cut the frame. All of those adjustments are well within the range that came from the factory. I am good to go!
2022-08-14_06-46-40 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

Here's one of the issues I had with my welder. This was a very bad day at the office lol. I had run out of wire and replaced it with a spool that I bought a couple months ago. It would run good, then it would run terrible. I mean really terrible. The picture shows the cause. Rather than feeding nicely off the spool the wire was getting pulled into itself.

As it turns out the package must have been damaged and shipping and the plastic drum that the wire is wound on to was broken almost in half. The internet said there's nothing you can do but throw it away and get a good spool. I really didn't want to do that since I really wanted to keep working.

As it turns out a 2-in hole saw will fit the ID of my old empty drum. So I set up a contraption to feed all of the new wire onto the old drum. I used a cordless drill to turn it and use my fingers to guide it back and forth. While it's not very pretty it has so far been 100% functional!

2022-08-14_06-46-57 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

Today I was able to cut two fish plates out and get them welded into place on the right frame rail. I'm out of steel so until I get some more work is at a standstill. Fish plating the other side will finish the frame rails. All that will be left will be to fully tie in the core support.
2022-08-14_06-47-35 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr

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« Reply #208 on: August 19, 2022, 03:58:55 AM »

I love it.

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« Reply #209 on: August 20, 2022, 03:07:07 PM »

Looks great!
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