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Charlie98
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Re: So I started thinkin' about getting a different bike .......
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July 05, 2022, 05:10:55 AM »
Quote from: greenmonster on July 04, 2022, 09:41:58 AM
Lowering footpegs makes wonders for comfort.
Just sayin ( had my first pension payment 3 weeks ago…).
There is a parts swap for my bike... retrofitting 1100 footpegs to the 696/796. It gets rid of the 'chicken wings' and actually moves the pegs slightly down and forward (if memory serves.) I have the parts in the garage, setting in a box. Maybe I'll rethink giving it a try...
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One of the less important changes I've noticed is how much easier it is for me to lift the rear wheel with the single sided swing arm vs. the box style swing arm on the 2001. Maybe it's the type of rear lift I purchased for the 900 [Viper] that makes it a little trickier to lift the rear without someone to steady the bike? I can do it but it usually makes me a bit nervous, visualizing the bike tipping over.....
With the 1100 it's just a breeze with no one else around.
koko, I'll consider the PC O2 optimizer once I get more saddle time in and see how the bike feels. It's great to have an option for the lower RPMs if needed. I
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Doug did a pretty solid tune to the engine in spite of the limited ECU mapping access.
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Re: So I started thinkin' about getting a different bike .......
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M1100DS and Evo have the quick thinking Seimens Conti ECU compared to the MTS Marelli.
Any hard facts, tests, links to verify this?!?
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Yeah, just a quicker processing computer to the previous . I can't find the article, but it's stuff IT folk understand. Riding both backs it up imo. Just incremental progress. The Marelli works fine on the MTS. I really like a well tuned MTS motor. If you're tall and fit the Spanish facelift kit they're nearly perfect.
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Re: So I started thinkin' about getting a different bike .......
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"Spanish facelift kit" ?
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Quote from: stopintime on July 05, 2022, 01:07:49 PM
"Spanish facelift kit" ?
Link?
https://dragontt.com/producto/front-fairing-multistrada-bi-light/
Look up DragonTT . Big improvement.
https://www.google.com/search?q=dragontt+multistrada&oq=dragontt+multistrada&aqs=chrome..69i57j0.10520j0j4&client=tablet-android-samsung&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
There's a kit using the stock "depressed Cyclops " headlight and another with twin headlights.
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Re: So I started thinkin' about getting a different bike .......
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Quote from: Charlie98 on July 05, 2022, 05:10:55 AM
There is a parts swap for my bike... retrofitting 1100 footpegs to the 696/796. It gets rid of the 'chicken wings' and actually moves the pegs slightly down and forward (if memory serves.) I have the parts in the garage, setting in a box. Maybe I'll rethink giving it a try...
You mean swapping M1100
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footpeg hangers to replace the original chicken wings? I say this coz - just to be clear - M696/M796 and M1100 all share the same fugly OEM chicken wings.
Be aware that if you do that mod.... you'll have no way to carry a pillion without also providing some other mods to facilitate mounting passenger footpegs. Replacing the stock M696/796/1100 rear subframe with EVO subframe is one way.... If you search around this place RAUX found some underseat passenger peg hangers for his 696 which would also did the trick (but all the chatter about that stuff was a decade ago, so I forget who the manufacturer was).
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Re: So I started thinkin' about getting a different bike .......
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Quote from: ungeheuer on July 06, 2022, 03:10:44 AM
You mean swapping M1100
EVO
footpeg hangers to replace the original chicken wings? I say this coz - just to be clear - M696/M796 and M1100 all share the same fugly OEM chicken wings.
Be aware that if you do that mod.... you'll have no way to carry a pillion without also providing some other mods to facilitate mounting passenger footpegs. Replacing the stock M696/796/1100 rear subframe with EVO subframe is one way.... If you search around this place RAUX found some underseat passenger peg hangers for his 696 which would also did the trick (but all the chatter about that stuff was a decade ago, so I forget who the manufacturer was).
Yes... my bad. It's been a few years since I rounded up the parts. It also requires a minor relocation of the rear brake reservoir. It does, indeed, take away the passenger pegs... but I'm not worried about that.
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Re: So I started thinkin' about getting a different bike .......
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Yeah, just a quicker processing computer to the previous . I can't find the article, but it's stuff IT folk understand.
I work w digital sound consoles so l know of latency.
We’re talking latency around 10 milliseconds or less.
Noticeable on a MC?
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Re: So I started thinkin' about getting a different bike .......
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Quote from: greenmonster on July 06, 2022, 12:15:05 PM
I work w digital sound consoles so l know of latency.
We’re talking latency around 10 milliseconds or less.
Noticeable on a MC?
Just like computers, storage, and memory, I'll bet automotive processors have benefited from newer tech. As more and more functions are handled by the ECU, like ABS and other functions, I'm sure there was a need for faster processors.
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Re: So I started thinkin' about getting a different bike .......
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Quote from: greenmonster on July 06, 2022, 12:15:05 PM
I work w digital sound consoles so l know of latency.
We’re talking latency around 10 milliseconds or less.
Noticeable on a MC?
I only know how to turn the things on.
Iirc I have read that the Conti ECU supports extra sensors managing engine response and part throttle acceleration. Makes the throttle very crisp (and some say harder to ride).
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Just finished a job on a M1000S. The weight difference is very noticeable compared to the Evo. Sometimes one needs a reminder as to just how light they are.
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Really interesting.
http://www.proservice.se/monster%20project.html
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Re: So I started thinkin' about getting a different bike .......
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Okay THAT is pretty interesting.
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I just had the chance to spend 7 hours in the saddle today. GREAT bike [waaay too fun] , f-ing terrible seat. It has got to go.
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