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Title: capoeira fighter (FAIL)
Post by: c_rex on August 26, 2008, 09:46:14 AM
---- [popcorn] ----
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2VwnBU1-iU
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Title: Re: capoeira fighter (FAIL)
Post by: Ash on August 26, 2008, 09:51:02 AM
damn that was pulled down fast...   :(
Title: Re: capoeira fighter (FAIL)
Post by: He Man on August 26, 2008, 09:53:10 AM
wtf, what was it?
Title: Re: capoeira fighter (FAIL)
Post by: derby on August 26, 2008, 09:58:43 AM
that's a scene from a movie, not a real fight.
Title: Re: capoeira fighter (FAIL)
Post by: dropstharockalot on August 26, 2008, 10:16:51 AM
Moer kappybara pwnage!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxCb_1hjBz0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxCb_1hjBz0)
Title: Re: capoeira fighter (FAIL)
Post by: Ash on August 26, 2008, 10:21:54 AM
capoeira is pretty and freaking cool to watch, but as a fighting style it's such a waste of energy.

Title: Re: capoeira fighter (FAIL)
Post by: IZ on August 26, 2008, 11:01:37 AM
Quote from: Ash on August 26, 2008, 10:21:54 AM
capoeira is pretty and freaking cool to watch, but as a fighting style it's such a waste of energy.




My lil' bro started it a few weeks ago.  I've seen some nice demos here in Austin and up in Seattle.  Lots of acrobats but for fighting?  It's like wushu kung fu..all show.   
Title: Re: capoeira fighter (FAIL)
Post by: Ash on August 26, 2008, 11:07:15 AM
HEY LOOK I JUST SNAPPED YOUR NECK!  no fancy dancing now, huh?

[cheeky]
Title: Re: capoeira fighter (FAIL)
Post by: XiaoNio on August 26, 2008, 11:10:10 AM
I played capoeira for 4 years and for the most part, what I learned was useless as a fighting art.  That being said, after training in jiu jitsu and kickboxing for a year or so and 8 or so years of Tang Soo Do, my capoeira mestre still kicked my butt in sparring.  Like all things, it depends on who you train with and how.  If you played capoeira in the favelas in Brazil, I'm pretty sure you could put a hurt on a lot of people.  Capoeira in America on the other hand is for martial artists that also happen to like dancing.
Title: Re: capoeira fighter (FAIL)
Post by: He Man on August 26, 2008, 11:19:14 AM
Quote from: XiaoNio on August 26, 2008, 11:10:10 AM
I played capoeira for 4 years and for the most part, what I learned was useless as a fighting art.  That being said, after training in jiu jitsu and kickboxing for a year or so and 8 or so years of Tang Soo Do, my capoeira mestre still kicked my butt in sparring.  Like all things, it depends on who you train with and how.  If you played capoeira in the favelas in Brazil, I'm pretty sure you could put a hurt on a lot of people.  Capoeira in America on the other hand is for martial artists that also happen to like dancing.

Anything you learn is effective, only if you learn to use as a weapon against others, not against your own. If you train with Capeoira guys only, your only defense is against capoeira, it looks sick, and probably is mostly for show, but im sure there are things you can learn from cap that can be used in a real fight. because everything goes back to basics when your up against some one, or a group of people.

Theres something called VAJJ, forgot what the VA stood for but its a Jiu Jitsu. The main focus of it is street fighting. There is no form, or kata or watever you want to call it. In class, you learn to difuse a situation, simply saying "GET BACK GET BACK" "BACK OFF!" and your opponent is the agressor and will continue to do a common move, such as trying to size you up and walk towards you, or push and shove you, or grab your shirt etc. And what i learned from watching those guys train is simple, the less technical, the more effective.
Title: Re: capoeira fighter (FAIL)
Post by: minnesotamonster on August 26, 2008, 11:26:38 AM
Quote from: He Man on August 26, 2008, 11:19:14 AM
Theres something called VAJJ

Va Jay Jay?

sorry, made me laugh. 
Title: Re: capoeira fighter (FAIL)
Post by: derby on August 26, 2008, 11:45:25 AM
Quote from: He Man on August 26, 2008, 11:19:14 AM
Anything you learn is effective, only if you learn to use as a weapon against others, not against your own. If you train with Capeoira guys only, your only defense is against capoeira, it looks sick, and probably is mostly for show, but im sure there are things you can learn from cap that can be used in a real fight. because everything goes back to basics when your up against some one, or a group of people.


capoeira isn't a combat art:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira
Title: Re: capoeira fighter (FAIL)
Post by: He Man on August 26, 2008, 11:54:54 AM
It isnt a fighting style, i know, but it can be used as one. Theres a Capo class where i do  Muay Thai and they treat it both ways. but its mostly moving with the music. they got the drums out and everyone is going with the beat. Its a tight space and ive gotten kicked in the face trying to get around them sometimes i can tell you its defintely possible to use some of those moves in a fight if you skiped the whole jumping around part.


and VAJJ yes, we all make fun of it. lol

heres the link to what VAJJ is (not my fight house)

http://www.veearnisjitsu.com/systems
Title: Re: capoeira fighter (FAIL)
Post by: Ash on August 26, 2008, 12:04:51 PM
i'm learning hanagah right now.  derivant of krav maga.  more violent and even simpler. 

very effective in an unfair fight.  the goal is to become the aggressor immediately after being targeted.  some of the moves i'm uncomfortable learning simply because if i use them, i know i'm going to be permanently damaging or killing someone.  gotta have 100% conviction that it's necessary to use that level of violence.... 
Title: Re: capoeira fighter (FAIL)
Post by: Ash on August 26, 2008, 12:08:14 PM
Principles of Hanagah:

1. Avoid getting hit. Techniques will always have an element that minimizes the danger of you being hit, especially in your vulnerable areas.
2. Don't be fancy. Techniques are simple and do not conflict with natural or instinctive body movements.
3. Defend yourself in the quickest, safest and most effective way. Most techniques include both defensive and offensive elements designed to protect you while inflicting maximum possible damage to your opponent to end the conflict quickly.
4. Use the opponent's vulnerable and weak points. Techniques are designed to exploit the many other not so obvious weak points on the human body.
5. Don't rely on strength. Techniques are designed to minimize your effort, enabling you to work effectively even when at a size, strength or position disadvantage.
6. Use available objects as weapons. The system is designed to teach you to effectively use improvised and ordinary weapons.
7. If forced to fight, no rules, no limits. If diplomacy fails, no hesitation, no holding back - anything goes.
Title: Re: capoeira fighter (FAIL)
Post by: NAKID on August 26, 2008, 01:15:11 PM
Quote from: Ash on August 26, 2008, 12:08:14 PM
Principles of Hanagah:

7. If forced to fight, no rules, no limits. If diplomacy fails, no hesitation, no holding back - anything goes.

+1

In a real fight, there is no such thing as a fair fight..
Title: Re: capoeira fighter (FAIL)
Post by: TiAvenger on August 26, 2008, 01:51:24 PM
Quote from: NAKID on August 26, 2008, 01:15:11 PM
+1

In a real fight, there is no such thing as a fair fight..

TEKG-

Throat, eyes, knee and groin.....
Title: Re: capoeira fighter (FAIL)
Post by: Ash on August 26, 2008, 02:05:59 PM
no means NO!

FIRE FIRE FIRE!
Title: Re: capoeira fighter (FAIL)
Post by: c_rex on August 26, 2008, 04:47:51 PM
aw man.. they yanked that video?  I have the file in an email a buddy of mine sent to me.  anyone want to post it?  I can't seem to get tinypic to take it.