capoeira fighter (FAIL)

Started by c_rex, August 26, 2008, 09:46:14 AM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGkHHsoKRP8&eurl=http://www.usa-taekwondo.us/

Ash

damn that was pulled down fast...   :(

He Man


derby

that's a scene from a movie, not a real fight.
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Ash

capoeira is pretty and freaking cool to watch, but as a fighting style it's such a waste of energy.


IZ

Quote from: Ash on August 26, 2008, 10:21:54 AM
capoeira is pretty and freaking cool to watch, but as a fighting style it's such a waste of energy.




My lil' bro started it a few weeks ago.  I've seen some nice demos here in Austin and up in Seattle.  Lots of acrobats but for fighting?  It's like wushu kung fu..all show.   
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Quote from: bobspapa on May 29, 2011, 08:09:57 AMThis just in..IZ is not that short..and I am not that tall.

Ash

HEY LOOK I JUST SNAPPED YOUR NECK!  no fancy dancing now, huh?

[cheeky]

XiaoNio

I played capoeira for 4 years and for the most part, what I learned was useless as a fighting art.  That being said, after training in jiu jitsu and kickboxing for a year or so and 8 or so years of Tang Soo Do, my capoeira mestre still kicked my butt in sparring.  Like all things, it depends on who you train with and how.  If you played capoeira in the favelas in Brazil, I'm pretty sure you could put a hurt on a lot of people.  Capoeira in America on the other hand is for martial artists that also happen to like dancing.

He Man

Quote from: XiaoNio on August 26, 2008, 11:10:10 AM
I played capoeira for 4 years and for the most part, what I learned was useless as a fighting art.  That being said, after training in jiu jitsu and kickboxing for a year or so and 8 or so years of Tang Soo Do, my capoeira mestre still kicked my butt in sparring.  Like all things, it depends on who you train with and how.  If you played capoeira in the favelas in Brazil, I'm pretty sure you could put a hurt on a lot of people.  Capoeira in America on the other hand is for martial artists that also happen to like dancing.

Anything you learn is effective, only if you learn to use as a weapon against others, not against your own. If you train with Capeoira guys only, your only defense is against capoeira, it looks sick, and probably is mostly for show, but im sure there are things you can learn from cap that can be used in a real fight. because everything goes back to basics when your up against some one, or a group of people.

Theres something called VAJJ, forgot what the VA stood for but its a Jiu Jitsu. The main focus of it is street fighting. There is no form, or kata or watever you want to call it. In class, you learn to difuse a situation, simply saying "GET BACK GET BACK" "BACK OFF!" and your opponent is the agressor and will continue to do a common move, such as trying to size you up and walk towards you, or push and shove you, or grab your shirt etc. And what i learned from watching those guys train is simple, the less technical, the more effective.

minnesotamonster

Quote from: He Man on August 26, 2008, 11:19:14 AM
Theres something called VAJJ

Va Jay Jay?

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derby

Quote from: He Man on August 26, 2008, 11:19:14 AM
Anything you learn is effective, only if you learn to use as a weapon against others, not against your own. If you train with Capeoira guys only, your only defense is against capoeira, it looks sick, and probably is mostly for show, but im sure there are things you can learn from cap that can be used in a real fight. because everything goes back to basics when your up against some one, or a group of people.


capoeira isn't a combat art:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capoeira
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He Man

It isnt a fighting style, i know, but it can be used as one. Theres a Capo class where i do  Muay Thai and they treat it both ways. but its mostly moving with the music. they got the drums out and everyone is going with the beat. Its a tight space and ive gotten kicked in the face trying to get around them sometimes i can tell you its defintely possible to use some of those moves in a fight if you skiped the whole jumping around part.


and VAJJ yes, we all make fun of it. lol

heres the link to what VAJJ is (not my fight house)

http://www.veearnisjitsu.com/systems

Ash

i'm learning hanagah right now.  derivant of krav maga.  more violent and even simpler. 

very effective in an unfair fight.  the goal is to become the aggressor immediately after being targeted.  some of the moves i'm uncomfortable learning simply because if i use them, i know i'm going to be permanently damaging or killing someone.  gotta have 100% conviction that it's necessary to use that level of violence.... 

Ash

Principles of Hanagah:

1. Avoid getting hit. Techniques will always have an element that minimizes the danger of you being hit, especially in your vulnerable areas.
2. Don't be fancy. Techniques are simple and do not conflict with natural or instinctive body movements.
3. Defend yourself in the quickest, safest and most effective way. Most techniques include both defensive and offensive elements designed to protect you while inflicting maximum possible damage to your opponent to end the conflict quickly.
4. Use the opponent's vulnerable and weak points. Techniques are designed to exploit the many other not so obvious weak points on the human body.
5. Don't rely on strength. Techniques are designed to minimize your effort, enabling you to work effectively even when at a size, strength or position disadvantage.
6. Use available objects as weapons. The system is designed to teach you to effectively use improvised and ordinary weapons.
7. If forced to fight, no rules, no limits. If diplomacy fails, no hesitation, no holding back - anything goes.