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Kitchen Sink => No Moto Content => Topic started by: Monstermash on October 27, 2008, 07:39:12 PM

Title: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: Monstermash on October 27, 2008, 07:39:12 PM
 I'm not sure if i should post this here or so please feel free to move it to the appropriate section if not.

I'm not trying to be a pain or cause problems, I'm just curious.

Why do we not have image hosting like on TOB? It seems like there are a lot of times where people would have posted images if we did. The example I would suggest is the classified section. There are quite a few items for sale where the sellers offer to email pics to anyone interested rather than just post them in the thread. I for one think it's quite a PITA to upload images onto a hosting site and then link to them in the thread. There are times when I don't even bother to reply to a thread when a pic is necessary because it's to much of a PITA.

Is it a monetary thing? While I'm on that subject, why no upgraded memberships like the titanium one's we had on the TOB? Wouldn't that insure that there was more operating capital?
Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: herm on October 27, 2008, 07:44:25 PM
if i remember, its more about bandwidth.
hosting all the pictures takes up a whole lot of space.

i think the flounders decided that it was not worth the hassle.

on the other hand, WTFDIK?
Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: Kopfjäger on October 27, 2008, 07:48:52 PM
I believe you are correct, Sir.
Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on October 27, 2008, 08:52:31 PM
It sucks up a *lot* of bandwidth, and from what I understand, is one of the reasons TOB became difficult to run, both speedwise, and monetarily.


Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: darylbowden on October 27, 2008, 09:33:44 PM
I'm not a Flounder, but I can tell you that those images eat up both bandwidth and just HD space very quickly.  Then we'd have to go through and pare them down at a certain point and really it's just a PITA that we don't need.  We have enough of those with Tiny Portal ;)

Anyhow, if someone can upload an attachment to a forum, they can just as easily upload it to photobucket.  If they can't figure that out, then they need to enroll in interwebs U.
Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: somegirl on October 27, 2008, 09:37:46 PM
I even made a FAQ (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=109.0) and all. ;)

Anyway, I think the inline (externally-hosted) pictures look much nicer in the posts than attachments you would have to click on to see properly.
Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: Monstermash on October 27, 2008, 10:05:24 PM
Quote from: darylbowden on October 27, 2008, 09:33:44 PM


Anyhow, if someone can upload an attachment to a forum, they can just as easily upload it to photobucket.  If they can't figure that out, then they need to enroll in interwebs U.

It's not about figuring out how. Thats easy. The thing I was trying to convey was that if you viewing a post and you want to respond and add a pic it's a PITA. You have to go to photobucket, upload the pic you want to post, then jump through all the hoops they want you to do like adding tags ect., and then copy the link and go back and post it in the thread.

I'm not saying it's not worth it but sometimes it 's too much of a hassle. Like a mentioned in the original post, I'm not trying to cause problems I was simply asking a question.

The resulting replys have satisfied my curiosity. It is as I thought anyway. I only thought if it because I've noticed some posts in the classified section where the seller has offered to email pics rather than just posting them.

Thanks for the replys!

Peace, Love, and Cupcakes!
Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: Drunken Monkey on October 27, 2008, 10:24:35 PM
As a flounder, there were three reasons.

Bandwidth.
Hard-disk space.
Bandwidth.

If all the DMF has to do is serve up text in posts the costs are significantly lower. Because, yes, a picture really is worth 1000 words.

Plus, on TOB they'd have to go through and scrub the attachments periodically to save room, which left a lot of threads with the annoying "attachment deleted by admin" text, instead of the photo showing you the proper way to remove your flux capacitor from your muffler bearings.

Now, with people relying on 3rd parties to handle images, they can stick around a lot longer. Indefinitely even.

That's not to say we aren't looking into ways to making posting images easier. There's been talk of using some plug-ins that'll make it easier to integrate into image hosting sites. Maybe it's worth looking at again...
Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: hbliam on October 27, 2008, 10:27:59 PM
I think we ought to just host all our pics at the DML. Problem solved.  :)
Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: TiNi on October 28, 2008, 04:20:59 AM
Quote from: Monstermash on October 27, 2008, 10:05:24 PM
It's not about figuring out how. Thats easy. The thing I was trying to convey was that if you viewing a post and you want to respond and add a pic it's a PITA. You have to go to photobucket, upload the pic you want to post, then jump through all the hoops they want you to do like adding tags ect., and then copy the link and go back and post it in the thread.

I'm not saying it's not worth it but sometimes it 's too much of a hassle. Like a mentioned in the original post, I'm not trying to cause problems I was simply asking a question.

The resulting replys have satisfied my curiosity. It is as I thought anyway. I only thought if it because I've noticed some posts in the classified section where the seller has offered to email pics rather than just posting them.

Thanks for the replys!

Peace, Love, and Cupcakes!

cupcakes? :)  [laugh]

it's not that difficult mash, and you can skip the image tagging and naming step in photobucket uploads  ;)

i think linking to pictures hosted somewhere else is a WaY better solution, the old "photo deleted by admin" was annoying on TOB.


Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: ducatiz on October 28, 2008, 04:59:56 AM
Quote from: hbliam on October 27, 2008, 10:27:59 PM
I think we ought to just host all our pics at the DML. Problem solved.  :)


[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: ducpainter on October 28, 2008, 05:17:43 AM
FTR...the very first thing we decided when we entered into this was there would be no image hosting.

It truly was the biggest issue on TOB.

edit
The second thing we decided was we didn't want to own a server.
Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: KnightofNi on October 28, 2008, 06:16:58 AM
i cna't get to photobucket at work.

you people arent' allowing me to properly goof off on my employers time.




i'm suing  ;D
Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: mitt on October 28, 2008, 06:21:39 AM
Quote from: KnightofNi on October 28, 2008, 06:16:58 AM
i cna't get to photobucket at work.

you people arent' allowing me to properly goof off on my employers time.




i'm suing  ;D

Flickr

Picaso

msn live

smugmug

imageshack

etc  etc   etc

mitt

Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: ducpainter on October 28, 2008, 06:24:40 AM
Quote from: mitt on October 28, 2008, 06:21:39 AM
Flickr

Picaso

msn live

smugmug

imageshack

etc  etc   etc

mitt


I think he saying he can't view the pics hosted at photobucket therefore reducing his goofing off experience.

As worthy a suit as most. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: KnightofNi on October 28, 2008, 06:27:22 AM
Quote from: mitt on October 28, 2008, 06:21:39 AM
Flickr - Blocked

Picaso - Blocked

msn live - pictures  or "media sharing" parts are blocked

smugmug - Blocked

imageshack - Blocked

etc  etc   etc - Blocked, Blocked, Blocked, Blocked

mitt



they don't want us seeing, sharing, or using sites like that. we are locked up pretty well for that. and yes, i've looked for loopholes, nothign has worked out yet.
Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: mitt on October 28, 2008, 06:28:33 AM
Quote from: KnightofNi on October 28, 2008, 06:27:22 AM
they don't want us seeing, sharing, or using sites like that. we are locked up pretty well for that. and yes, i've looked for loopholes, nothign has worked out yet.

Looks like you are SOL then  [laugh]

mitt
Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: Kopfjäger on October 28, 2008, 05:28:29 PM
Could someone post a pic of "how to post a pic" I'm a visual person.  ;)
Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: somegirl on October 28, 2008, 05:30:31 PM
Quote from: kopfjager on October 28, 2008, 05:28:29 PM
Could someone post a pic of "how to post a pic" I'm a visual person.  ;)

You've obviously not seen my FAQ full of screenshots then! 8)
Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: ducpainter on October 28, 2008, 05:31:24 PM
Quote from: kopfjager on October 28, 2008, 05:28:29 PM
Could someone post a pic of "how to post a pic" I'm a visual person.  ;)
Pics posted here (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=109.0)
Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: KnightofNi on October 28, 2008, 06:38:12 PM
Quote from: mitt on October 28, 2008, 06:28:33 AM
Looks like you are SOL then  [laugh]

mitt

until someone finds a "media sharing" site that my company hasn't blocked, or a way to view the pics hosted on them
Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: Kopfjäger on October 28, 2008, 06:55:57 PM
Quote from: msincredible on October 28, 2008, 05:30:31 PM
You've obviously not seen my FAQ full of screenshots then! 8)
[thumbsup] ;D
Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: gojira on October 29, 2008, 02:32:50 AM

Quote from: KnightofNi on October 28, 2008, 06:16:58 AM
you people arent' allowing me to properly goof off on my employers time.
[laugh]

Have you tried the free space attached to your internet service at home? Comcast (for me) I believe includes 25 megs for example.

Or, you could surf through a proxy (http://www.hidemyass.com/).  ;D

Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: factorPlayer on October 29, 2008, 06:37:34 AM
I was bitter about it at first and pregnant doged somewhat - but yeah it comes down to it being a resource hog.

Quote from: KnightofNi on October 28, 2008, 06:27:22 AM
they don't want us seeing, sharing, or using sites like that. we are locked up pretty well for that. and yes, i've looked for loopholes, nothign has worked out yet.

That sucks that your employer sees fit to limit web access.  I'd never tolerate that.  At my work there is total external access and everyone is relied on to just get their job done - amazingly it works.
Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: KnightofNi on October 29, 2008, 06:44:21 AM
Quote from: gojira on October 29, 2008, 02:32:50 AM
[laugh]

Have you tried the free space attached to your internet service at home? Comcast (for me) I believe includes 25 megs for example.

Or, you could surf through a proxy (http://www.hidemyass.com/).  ;D



i'm fairly certain that will get me in trouble. mainly because i've seen people get in trouble for surfing through a proxy
those sites are also blocked.

Quote from: factorPlayer on October 29, 2008, 06:37:34 AM
I was bitter about it at first and pregnant doged somewhat - but yeah it comes down to it being a resource hog.

That sucks that your employer sees fit to limit web access.  I'd never tolerate that.  At my work there is total external access and everyone is relied on to just get their job done - amazingly it works.

we had a major embezzlement issue last year. we got busted on a few things and because we are in healthcare they want to make sure everything is more than HIPPA compliant. also, if we can upload files or pictures of our business operations to those sites then you cna't tell who is looking at them.
i also think they are just being overly strict and cautious.
Title: Re: Question for the Flounders....
Post by: Capo on October 29, 2008, 07:19:07 AM
Uploading pics to TOB was a pain in the butt compared to photobucket.
I got an account there so I could post pics here.
Thank you DMF for introducing me to another corner of the WWW.