Whey are these on ebay for more than $500 (16g version)
Some have BIN's for $600+ :o
AT&T store sells them for $499
What am I missing?
People are charging ~$100 to crack and activate them - which is a rort 'cause it takes less than 10 minutes to do... I guess if you're not confident about getting a newly bought one working on some non-AT&T network yourself it _might_ be worth that sort of money to you (and the fact that some of them do sell at those prices means it is for some people... That or they're all just stupid - which is a somewhat more likely explanation ;) ) Remember the $499 Apples charges is _really_ "$499 for the phone then $70 per month for 2 years to AT&T"
big
casue its like crack. When you get hooked ya cant get of! iphones suck.
Why do they suck?
they don't, they are just expensive and popular. And soon to be upgraded. Heed my words!
Does that still apply if my employer is covering the cost of the phone?
The 16GB version is increasingly difficult to find. I think production has stopped on both versions and the 8GB is the only one they had signifigant stocks of.
And yes, there is to be a new version at a rumoured AT&T subsidized price. Look for it in June or July.
It sucks because the keyboard on it is impossible to use at a respectable speed. Its main feature that i like is the large screen and direct youtube/google earth capability. Does it have GPS?
But yes, if i cant type as fast as a blackberry, or sidekick it sucks. i think i could beat myself with an oldschool predictive text phone.
It has the same 'GPS' that every cell phone has, guessing location based on cel towers. I don't think you could cram a real sat-based GPS into a cell phone yet and not have it bulk up considerably.
Try this out to see an example:
http://www.themobiletracker.com/english/index.html
Quote from: elTristo on May 11, 2008, 10:58:56 AM
It has the same 'GPS' that every cell phone has, guessing location based on cel towers. I don't think you could cram a real sat-based GPS into a cell phone yet and not have it bulk up considerably.
I've got an IPAQ (windows CE based) phone with a built in GPS. It's slightly larger than a comparable crackberry.
My hope is Apple wll get their software / bluetooth support with the iPhone un-suckifed, maybe then it'd be able to support any one of the blue-tooth based GPS devices out there.
Quote from: elTristo on May 11, 2008, 10:58:56 AM
It has the same 'GPS' that every cell phone has, guessing location based on cel towers. I don't think you could cram a real sat-based GPS into a cell phone yet and not have it bulk up considerably.
Try this out to see an example:
http://www.themobiletracker.com/english/index.html
From what I've read they're cramming a gps in the 3g one coming out, I'll be getting one of those when it comes out to upgrade mine.
i have a full GPS on my cell phone. Its real time live tracking, down to 3 meters. When i dont get a fix on a GPS signal, it turns into the regular cell phone tower tracking. which is usually within 500 feet.
If the Iphone had a button keyboard, real GPS, then it would be one hell of a phone. Same goes true with sidekick. If they finnaly made a new one, (the LX doenst count, its just a high def screen) with GPS, a new homescreen with 3g AIM, it would be one sick phone.
what phone do you have?
Word on the street is the new ones will be offered at $199 from AT&T
http://www.iphonefaq.org/archives/97423
my iphone works really well for me because i unlocked it myself and i have app's galore
if thay hadn't come out with an iphone
i'd be getting a nokia N95 8gb
no other smart phone comes close to browsing the internet as the iphone does (thats what i mostly use it for)
but there is no one cell phone for the world (thank god)
everyone has there own needs weather it be texting viewing E-mail's or browsing the web
and there are cell phone that meet those need better than others
and IMO the iphone is not worth 600 not even with all the free apps in the world
$155 at best [thumbsup]
Every time I see an iPhone or an iPhone thread... I think of this web page:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone).
Quote from: swerdna on May 12, 2008, 11:47:17 AM
Every time I see an iPhone or an iPhone thread... I think of this web page:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone).
awesome page
wait till the June 9th, when the new one comes w/ 3g, gps, blah blah blah im already on the applefanboyridingsack bandwagon, etc...
Quote from: JamesMcCain on May 12, 2008, 02:55:31 PM
wait till the June 9th, when the new one comes w/ 3g, gps, blah blah blah im already on the applefanboyridingsack bandwagon, etc...
Maybe not even that long. The US and UK apple stores (online at least) are out of iPhones and won't be getting any more. There's some very strong rumors floating around that we may see the 3G iPhone as soon as this or next week!
Quote from: darylbowden on May 12, 2008, 03:30:14 PM
Maybe not even that long. The US and UK apple stores (online at least) are out of iPhones and won't be getting any more. There's some very strong rumors floating around that we may see the 3G iPhone as soon as this or next week!
el possibly, but I got someone on the inside that keeps me pretty update to things... I can assure you the world conference is going to be pretty big this year... along side the 2.0 update. =)
you should see what else is on there plate as well..
Quote from: androgynous on May 12, 2008, 02:53:23 PM
awesome page
The HR dept at my old job, myself included, wrote ourselves up because for 2 weeks we did nothing but read Maddox's site.
Quote from: JamesMcCain on May 12, 2008, 03:32:33 PM
el possibly, but I got someone on the inside that keeps me pretty update to things... I can assure you the world conference is going to be pretty big this year... along side the 2.0 update. =)
you should see what else is on there plate as well..
Are we talking tablet? SOmehting between an iPhone and a macbook? C'mon let me know, I'm a huge apple nerd. ;) (seriously)
Quote from: swerdna on May 12, 2008, 11:47:17 AM
Every time I see an iPhone or an iPhone thread... I think of this web page:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone).
OMFG is that funny!
"The technology is called "tactile response," and it allows you to do things like dial a phone number without staring at your screen like a shit-chucking ape."
I make the beast with two backsing lost it when I read that about the ape. [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
I loooove my 16gb Iphone. The only thing i regret is that i had to give up getting picture texts (cause the iphone don't do dat) from the hot asian girl at work.... and they were getting increasingly risque too.
ah well
google maps on it was friggin perfect when i drove up to s. illinois a month ago. every exit was on point mileage was very very close to perfect and the iphone handled it all perfectly. of course most of that is thanks to google, but the iphone did manage it well.
Quote from: He Man on May 11, 2008, 08:07:45 AM
It sucks because the keyboard on it is impossible to use at a respectable speed. Its main feature that i like is the large screen and direct youtube/google earth capability. Does it have GPS?
But yes, if i cant type as fast as a blackberry, or sidekick it sucks. i think i could beat myself with an oldschool predictive text phone.
FWIW, I shared the same opinion until I bought one. It takes some getting used to. You have to stop doing what touch typers are used to (backspacing to correct mistakes) and let it auto-correct, then the speed increases.
I got my iPhone refurbished from AT&T for $249 (8GB). I'm sure they'll drop in price pretty soon with 3G coming out. Every so often AT&T will ahve the refurbs up for sale on their website. I got one, unlocked it, but after using it for 3 months I'm not as impressed anymore. I actually prefer my old Sony Ericsson when it comes to text messaging and keeping it in my pocket on rides. The iPhone currently has no MMS feature (Multimedia Messaging) and no native method to transfer contacts from SIM. The text messaging kinda sucks because there's no draft folder. You can be in the middle of composing a message just to lose it entirely when you're interrupted by a phone call. Other than that, it's real purdy and let's me look up email easily. Oh, people with big fingers need not apply.
I'm pretty sure my iphone saves my text messages when I get a call in the middle of composing them. Mine is locked, maybe that's why? I know for sure it saves emails that are being written when I get a phone call in the middle of it.
Quote from: darylbowden on May 12, 2008, 03:51:47 PM
Are we talking tablet? SOmehting between an iPhone and a macbook? C'mon let me know, I'm a huge apple nerd. ;) (seriously)
man that subject is so DoD its unreal...
but someone informed me of a good nice revision to the MBP's with nice new spec's. =)
Well, it looks like my company is sticking with verizon so the iPhone is out.
Im looking at this thing now -->http://www.xv6900.com/
Similar, but seems like it has less limitations.
And I think I can run a terminal emulator on it 8)
Everyone excited for the iPhone today? I saw on macrumorslive that it might not be available until mid June or July. >:(
New iphone is launched!! looks awsome!! check gizmodo.com for details ;D
$199 for 8g $299 for 16g
Available july 11th
Even has special apps for geek medical students like me [thumbsup]
Jeez, July 11th?? I was ready to head out to the Apple store today! Still not that impressed after seeing the specs. I was really hoping for a better camera and at least 32 gigs. 16 gigs can't replace my ipod, which was the only reason I was going to buy an iphone.
They could do better. I'll sit here and watch my apple stock fall for the next month I guess.
Quote from: NvrSummer on June 09, 2008, 01:17:53 PM
Jeez, July 11th?? I was ready to head out to the Apple store today! Still not that impressed after seeing the specs. I was really hoping for a better camera and at least 32 gigs. 16 gigs can't replace my ipod, which was the only reason I was going to buy an iphone.
They could do better. I'll sit here and watch my apple stock fall for the next month I guess.
I was a little surprised that there was no 32 gb one either. We actually got a donation of Apple stock at work today. I'm curious if the guy did it in conjuntion with the WWDC or if it was just a coincidence.
I'm disappointed that I'm going to have to wait until at least the 11th to get one. I say "at least" cuz I don't plan on camping out in line so I'm sure I won't get one on the actual 11th.
What are everyone's thoughts on it being plastic and not metal? I think it's a good way to reduce weight but OTOH I've heard a lot of stories about people dropping theirs so it makes me worry a bit.
I guess no reason for me to upgrade yet.
I will upgrade to the new software.
The new price point has already converted my finacee though [thumbsup]
200 still with the 2 year contract, right?
Quote from: elTreesto on May 11, 2008, 10:58:56 AM
It has the same 'GPS' that every cell phone has, guessing location based on cel towers. I don't think you could cram a real sat-based GPS into a cell phone yet and not have it bulk up considerably.
Try this out to see an example:
http://www.themobiletracker.com/english/index.html
Having spent 3.5 years testing the "guessing" GPS system for several companies, I would have to say that as an example, 1 call out of 1700 calls while made testing Nextel in Indianapolis locking in at a fix greater than 1 meter margin of error versus my in car GPS seems a little bit better than guessing.
This is off topic and I apologize, but phase 2 E911 uses actual satellite fixes and not triangulation associated with anticipated GPS coordinates. And every phone that is compliant(every phone on the market per federal regulations by 2008) is GPS capable. The software interface with the GPS is where some phones shine over phones that have no user interface with the GPS.
I have to say that with some free software and an upgrade to the OS from 5 to 6, I am very happy with the GPS functionality of my Motorola Q.
But I also had alot of fun playing with a friend's IPhone...
just to clarify. Z's reply is in response to specs that were outdated with today's revision. The 3g iphone is A-GPS. (Assisted GPS: real gps + cell tower triangulation).
Quote from: swerdna on June 09, 2008, 02:29:19 PM
200 still with the 2 year contract, right?
From what I understand, no. That's the price, straight up. Apple will probably make a killing on their 30% rake on the sale of the third party apps, that's where they are planing on making the bulk of the $$. By having a lower hardware price, Apple can get the 3g iphone into more people's hands and those people are going to be buying 3rd party apps and content from itunes(which is almost pure profit for apple)
Anyone think there's a chance a 32 gig model will come out in a few months? I know apple likes to keep things fresh, and if I bought a 16 gig on 7/11 I'd be really pissed if a 32 gig came out a month later.
From what I've read around the Internet, a 32Gb version should come out later this year, around Nov. or Dec., right on time for Christmas.
But, again, nothing's for sure yet... :-\
Quote from: Kaveh on June 09, 2008, 08:14:27 PM
From what I understand, no. That's the price, straight up. Apple will probably make a killing on their 30% rake on the sale of the third party apps, that's where they are planing on making the bulk of the $$. By having a lower hardware price, Apple can get the 3g iphone into more people's hands and those people are going to be buying 3rd party apps and content from itunes(which is almost pure profit for apple)
actually, yes, 2 year contract for the 3g at 199.
furthermore, they now require that you sign the contract before purchase thereby negating the possibility of using it on another network; i.e., though it will probably still be technically possible to crack the firmware, if you've already signed the contract, there's not much motive.